|Anything goes in The Snug, the GD's rebellious little brother. An off-topic den of iniquity for non-football/news related musings.
Fella I was chatting to tonight insisted he was "real eastend" as he came from Dagenham. I say he's Essex, and he's a Gooner so his opinion is void, but this did get me thinking how east London are we really?
My old mum, god bless her, was born and raised in Forest Gate and my dad was West Ham and Silvertown.
I was born in Rush Green and raised in Hornchurch. Family have strong East End roots but I see myself as Essex. Is this the same for a lot of our fanbase?
Funny, I was thinking about this only yesterday.
I've been tracing my family tree, and on my dad's side I've got back to the 16th century and every successive father lived within a few square miles around Stepney and Stoke Newington. For 500 years.
Then my old feller moved to Crawley for work in the 70s and now I've grown up to be a bit of a ponce. If I'm honest, I still play the "I'm from the East End" card when it suits me, but it kind of feels that I've slayed the family line.
I guess things change.
Born in Bow, both parents born in Stepney and all four grand parents born in the East End.
I might lose my East End passport as I hate pie and mash and jellied eels.
Not one little bit. If it went by location, I should be a hardcore, dyed in the wool Spurs fan. Both my parents were paddys who came over here in the 1950s
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Pretty sure Anglesey was part of the East End until it drifted off 10,000 years ago , it was a well known fact that up until this point everyone in the East End spoke Welsh - so I'm very much East End .
Come On You Irons
You could argue that inhabitants of what is now the Cockney Heimat probably spoke something that is a relative of modern Welsh i.e. 'Brittonic'. However, the concept 'Cockney' has roots in Germanic languages.
Is Cockney a state of mind or, as I suspect, a state of no mind?
My mum was born in Inverness but, her family moved to Forest Gate when she was a few months old. They moved again to Barkingside just before the War. Dad was born near Swansea, moved to Marylebone as a toddler and then out to Hornchurch in time to go to Royal Liberty.
I was born in Oldchurch hospital, lived in Collier Row for three years and mostly grew up in Upminster.
I'm not very East End at all but, my paternal grandfather used to referee West Ham games so my dad became a fan and then passed it on to me.
Not very much at all.
Born in Chatham, lived in Gillingham for a bit. Then, apart from 5 years in Leeds about 40 years in Basingstoke.
My folks have done a bit of genealogy and there's nothing within earshot of the Bow Bells - West Country, south coast, France
Not one jot of East End in me. South East London boy and always been proud of it.
Born Plumstead raised in Eltham. Then since the '80s 20 years in Hayes (Middlesex) then Amersham. Then moved to near Dartford.
Mum , from Bermondsey Dad from Iford .
I was born in King George's Newbur Park raised and schooled in Hornchurch .
Married and lived in in Elm Park and Rainham , moved the Ashford Kent and now between Gravesend and Maidstone , Hodshall St .
Always worked in London apart from 2 years in Brighton , and have been working in Bow, Mile End and Stepney for the last 5 years , I am afraid to say there are a few of the older generations of East Enders left the rest have gone .
One place that remains is Jonny Walls the bakers on Ben Johnson Road , proper East End ladies in there , I asked was the bread pudding made the shop she said yes and we'll sell **** loads of it and she explained it's a technical bakery term for loads of it and it was just like my Mum used to make .
Almost forgot Maureen's pie and mash in Crisp Street , top draw .
The East End finishes at Bow Flyover, so anyone born east of there and claiming to be East End is blatently not.
I was born in Upney, but my old man was from Lewisham and the old girl Tottenham. Good job they met in the middle otherwise my loyalty's would have been elsewhere.
I just squeezed in as I was born in St Andew's hospital Bow....right next to the flyover.