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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby hammerdivone on Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:47 am

I'm not saying a 2nd hand diesel car is a bad investment, just that I wouldn't buy a poor quality 2009 Jag x-type (even with very low mileage which is not always a good thing btw) when there is much better value out there
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby Hugh Jargon II on Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:16 pm

That's good advice. I've read that the 2009 range had 500 changes/improvements. The book has 7 main dealer stamps (apparently). I suspect the chap selling it (for someone who has chopped it in for an xe) is a mechanic/salesman trying to get a better price following an attempted trade in.

Experience tells me the trade don't give a monkey's about condition or mileage and probably offered 3500 k for it. I think I'm paying retail price for this one to be honest. I'm so bloody tempted though but I'm gonna walk away. Too much money. I don't mind paying a bit extra for the condition but I reckon this is at least £1500 over the top.

Here it is

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201710060045358?postcode=cm120fe&maximum-mileage=20000&sort=sponsored&make=JAGUAR&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&price-from=7000&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&year-from=2009&price-to=7500&page=1
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby -DL- on Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:18 pm

The leather steering wheel looks awfully shiny for a 15k mile car...
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby DasNutNock on Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:19 pm

Hugh Jargon II wrote:That's good advice. I've read that the 2009 range had 500 changes/improvements. The book has 7 main dealer stamps (apparently). I suspect the chap selling it (for someone who has chopped it in for an xe) is a mechanic/salesman trying to get a better price following an attempted trade in.

Experience tells me the trade don't give a monkey's about condition or mileage and probably offered 3500 k for it. I think I'm paying retail price for this one to be honest. I'm so bloody tempted though but I'm gonna walk away. Too much money. I don't mind paying a bit extra for the condition but I reckon this is at least £1500 over the top.

Here it is

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201710060045358?postcode=cm120fe&maximum-mileage=20000&sort=sponsored&make=JAGUAR&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&price-from=7000&radius=1500&advertising-location=at_cars&year-from=2009&price-to=7500&page=1


Could do worse than spending a couple hours looking at it and seeing if they'll budge on the price. They might want to get it off the forecourt, in which case you might be in a position to get a bargain.
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby Number9 on Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:59 pm

Looks genuine but double check the service history.
Currently on a private plate & probably in the process of being transferred. Current reg number is P4BHP
Books trade Cap Clean at £5775.
It's a bit expensive but you'll have to go a long way to find another 1 with that mileage.
Everything else is clear ie not subject to insurance claim or accident damage & no finance owing.
Info is good as of now but can change any time.
Hope that helps.
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby Hugh Jargon II on Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:10 pm

Thanks No 9. That's very helpful.

I've completed my research. Old diesels like this one are too risky. Low mileage with a DPF is a risk. Emission charges could migrate to towns. Tax will go up. Fuel prices. Basically the environmentalists have won this battle.
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby ludo22 on Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:45 am

I'm a car dealer and I've sold a few X types.The 2009 model is the farewell version and has plenty of toys but the X type is pretty uninspiring to drive.£7500 may sound cheap but it isn't and you're paying a massive premium for low miles which,quite frankly,is a bit unnecessary.One of the biggest mistakes punters make about cars is that low miles equals reliability and value.It's b*llocks.You are a million times better off buying one with 50k on it for 4 grand.Blowing £7500 on an X type is,IMO,not a great idea.There are miles nicer and better cars available for that dough and if you want a cheap Jag,the S Type with the 2.7 diesel engine is far better.
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby Hugh Jargon II on Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:25 am

Thanks ludo. I said I would only be serious around the 6.5 mark and even then I know its expensive and the owner wont take anything near that. I think its totally unrealistic.
I've allways been tempted by low mileage cars....and I make you right.
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby Greatest Cockney Rip Off on Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:26 pm

Hugh Jargon II wrote:Thanks ludo. I said I would only be serious around the 6.5 mark and even then I know its expensive and the owner wont take anything near that. I think its totally unrealistic.
I've allways been tempted by low mileage cars....and I make you right.


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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby The Old Man of Storr on Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:30 am

Just been looking online for that particular car , Hugh and it would seem that £7.5k is overpriced even at 15,000 - it's going to depreciate just by looking at it - don't buy it , mate - for £7,500 you could do a lot better .
Lexus IS250 ?
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby Morocco Mole on Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:09 am

Clucking Bell wrote:Lot of money for an eight year old Mondeo though ...... there's your counter-argument


Boom. :)
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby Hugh Jargon II on Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:57 pm

Oh well. Opted for a petrol 2.5 in the end. Virtually half the price of the diesel. Once I've painted the rear bumper it will be mint. 30,000 miles. Drove it back today and loved it. Great 2nd car I reckon..mpg is a bit iffy...but heated seats, sat nav, screen and full leather.
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby The Old Man of Storr on Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:01 am

Get yourself a Chauffeur's Uniform and you're all set to go . :)
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby Bamber Gascoigne on Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:56 pm

Nice one Hugh - sounds like a nice car!

Welcome to the world of Jaguar ownership

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eWIrBOc3zE

I think I had my XF for around a couple of days before I started saying things like "Lets take/I'll pick you up in/I'm not sure that will fit in/Anybody want a lift in.................. The Jaaag" :D
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby ageing hammer on Mon Oct 23, 2017 11:13 pm

So your not buying it then, I was hoping to call you Hugh Jagon :D
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby 3times on Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:53 pm

Bamber Gascoigne wrote:Nice one Hugh - sounds like a nice car!

Welcome to the world of Jaguar ownership

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eWIrBOc3zE

I think I had my XF for around a couple of days before I started saying things like "Lets take/I'll pick you up in/I'm not sure that will fit in/Anybody want a lift in.................. The Jaaag" :D


Know the feeling, although mines a bit poorly at the moment due to a deer thinking it was more powerful!!

Looking to get mine chipped soon, take it to around 325BH and nearly 700lbs torque!!!
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby DasNutNock on Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:57 pm

3times wrote:Looking to get mine chipped soon, take it to around 325BH and nearly 700lbs torque!!!


Any idea what that realistically does to your insurance premium? I don't know anyone that chipped their car that also told their insurer, and I'm not convinced it's worth the potential loss of cover in the event of an accident.
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby 3times on Tue Oct 24, 2017 5:17 pm

No idea Das.

may not say anything. Only way they could find out is to take the ecu apart and check the chip. Not sure they would do that if they had no reason to suspect.

when I had my last Impreza I had the Prodrive kit and it didn't make any difference to the premium.
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby Bamber Gascoigne on Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:18 pm

3times wrote:.... although mines a bit poorly at the moment due to a deer thinking it was more powerful!


Sorry to hear this 3T :(
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Re: Car advice. (Jag)

Postby -DL- on Wed Oct 25, 2017 12:54 am

DasNutNock wrote:
Any idea what that realistically does to your insurance premium? I don't know anyone that chipped their car that also told their insurer, and I'm not convinced it's worth the potential loss of cover in the event of an accident.


Got my Megane done. 110 bhp up to 138bhp (Yes, not exactly setting the world alight - but for an outlay of 250 notes, was rude not to and makes a hell of a difference in performance and economy).

Anyway, when it was renewal time, I wasn't happy with the prices Admiral were quoting for multi-car, so shopped around for insurance and came across Adrian Flux. Asked them out of curiosity how much difference it would make to my premium - and they quoted me the exact same price. As the quote for both the Megane and the wife's car came in at almost £200 less than Admiral, in effect, I only paid £50 for the remap.
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