6-A-Side

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6-A-Side

Postby Knighter10WHU on Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:19 pm

Looking for some 6-A-Side advice from people who have played before.

A little background: we are a side of generally unfit mid 20 year olds, at the moment we have 1 technically good player who has ability and a decent shot, by far the best player in the team. We have 1 other guy who has a powerful shot but little else. We do have a decent goalkeeper but he is also probably the best defender we have. The rest of us are not very specialised in any position but probably more suited to defending that anything else. We have been getting beat a lot and often heavily (7 or 8-0).

How would you setup in terms of formations given the above?
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby DasNutNock on Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:22 pm

5 strikers and 1 defender.
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby The Gibbins on Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:24 pm

The way we do it, we have the limited guys (like me) in a close knit defence and basically let the other guys who have talent work their magic. But then we have a few grafters in the team so we play a lot of long ball (7 aside), and rely on knockdowns which has pissed a lot of the more talented teams off. We have been a bit of an Allardyce Bolton success type story against superior opposition :lol:
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby JerseyHammer on Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:43 pm

I play 7-a-side twice a week and 5 a side once a week so I'll share what we do.

For 7s, the xmas tree: keeper / 1 centreback with wingbacks / 2 in the centre / 1 up top.

For 5s, the diamond: keeper / centreback / 2 wingers / 1 up top.

I tend to cover the most ground out of both teams and am left footed so play left wingback in 7s and as a winger in 5s. There is little way around being fit so I'd say that has to come first! I'm not technically much goo, but tend to be quite handy when on the run.

In your situation I'd probably set up like this, using the fittest / fastest / most mobile 2 as wingbacks.

Keeper
Wingback / centreback (the current keeper) / wingback
Technically decent bloke
Bloke with decent shot

Reasoning behind the keeper going into centre back, is that (from our experience anyway) having decent defenders in the way makes more of a difference. If someone hits a rocket into the bottom corner, there is precious little that can be done to stop it, decent keeper or not. However, a decent defender will usually mean a blocked shot or enough pressure on the striker to mean a weaker (more easily saveable) shot. The decent player will be more useful somewhere in the middle of the pitch where he's always likely to get a stab at goal as well as relieve a bit of the pressure from the defence.

I play with Italians who do love to make a massive meal of things but they are tactically all very astute.
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby Monkeybubbles on Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:09 pm

Keep moving.
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby Knighter10WHU on Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:46 pm

Cheers for the suggestions. I quite like the idea of the 3-1-1 so we might give that a go, slight problem is that we don't really have any fit or mobile players so I guess the 2 wing backs will have to start getting down the gym! We have a game against one of the poorer sides in the league on Thursday night so will see how the new setup gets on.
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby iLoveLasagne on Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:51 pm

We played 3-1-1 at uni. The two 1s were both tall, strong and fast combined with great technique so all we had to do was defend and play the ball to them. I was the most mobile of the 3 at the back and could also beat a man so I joined the attack when I could. Stamina and a willingness to run plus not being greedy with the ball was key for us.
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby Crouchend_Hammer on Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:25 pm

I never liked 5 or 6 a side much, as players who were very average at proper football could look good simply by being very fit and knowing where to move

I try and play now and again and i am simply not fit enough by a long way
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby Nesticles on Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:38 pm

When you lose your man in 5/6/7 a side, it usually results in giving away a goal scoring opportunity

Playing against people you cannot compete with (fitness,ability wise etc), in these formats usually doesn't end well

Formations, to an extent, go out the window as you are constantly on the move marking someone unless you are all well drilled/competent enough to pass on players you are marking and switch during the game
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby Knighter10WHU on Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:24 pm

Crouchend_Hammer wrote:I never liked 5 or 6 a side much, as players who were very average at proper football could look good simply by being very fit and knowing where to move

I try and play now and again and i am simply not fit enough by a long way


That is what we are finding as well, we have been playing once a week for the past 4-5 months but seem to be getting no fitter.
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby Clucking Bell on Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:39 am

We had a bloke who used to play for Red Star Belgrade and a Romanian bloke who also used to make a living at football. We gave the ball to them and then did exactly whatever they told us to. :D

On the odd occasion we fell behind they shoved me up front and then used me as a human pinball cushion to bounce the ball off into the back of the net.
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby Briggsy on Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:27 pm

If your team is rubbish then you've got to focus on defensive shape and not conceding a ton of goals to try and grow at least a bit of confidence,

I don't play 6's but always play 5s. You can tell when a team are poor because they have 3 attacking players, a defender and a goal keeper. They always lose as the 3 attacking players won't defend, and usually just stand around in midfield blaming each other.

In the 6's, playing 3 at the back is a good idea, but not play wing backs. They will turn into wingers, won't track back at all and you'll end up with 1 CB and carry on losing 9-0.

Play 3 CBs, be very disciplined. You don't even have to do much running then either. 3 at the back, block shots. You'll conceded less goals. Play narrow as well, do a 3-1-1. When defending make sure you have all 5 outfield players behind the ball, with the furthest forward play occasionally putting pressure. Keep your players in your own half when defending. Let the other team have the ball in there own half. They won't score from there. They will have to eventually push up & it gives you a chance to counter attack.

You won't score many goals in this system, but it will stop you getting absolutely battered every week.
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby warp on Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:29 pm

if you can't get better at football, you have to get better at running.
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby HalfTimePie on Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:25 pm

Get fit, 6-a-side is knackering and you are constantly running pretty much. If you don't have the fitness then it wont matter how technically good you are.
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby Knighter10WHU on Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:29 pm

Lost 4-1 on Thursday night. 3-0 down at half time and drew 1-1 in the second half. We improved in the second half when we moved the striker back to defence as that was where he was coming back to play anyway and shifted one of the other players upfront.
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby Briggsy on Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:32 pm

Knighter10WHU wrote:Lost 4-1 on Thursday night. 3-0 down at half time and drew 1-1 in the second half. We improved in the second half when we moved the striker back to defence as that was where he was coming back to play anyway and shifted one of the other players upfront.


That's an improvement! how did you line up?
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby Clacton-ammer on Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:00 pm

Line ups in 5/6 a side?? It's surely meant to be a fluid set up innit, pass/move/run...if your team is that unfit, leave two at the back, others are fluid, when one fluid starts blowing out of arris, change for one of the defenders and repeat.
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby Knighter10WHU on Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:28 pm

Briggsy wrote:
That's an improvement! how did you line up?


It was a 3-1-1 but the wing backs didn't exactly get forward much as we haven't got the legs to do it. It was defensive but we have at least started to stop getting battered!
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby Briggsy on Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:59 pm

Knighter10WHU wrote:It was a 3-1-1 but the wing backs didn't exactly get forward much as we haven't got the legs to do it. It was defensive but we have at least started to stop getting battered!


Nice work, the 3-1-1 will help you keep the score down. You won't win very much but you've got a bit of shape.

Next start focusing on trying to keep the ball if you can. You've got 3 defenders & a goal keeper so focus on passing the ball between the defence & the keeper. The opposition will rarely close you down in numbers when you have multiple players at the back. You'll make the odd mistake at first and gift them a goal but don't worry about it, if you're under pressure & can't pass, hoof it away and get your defensive shape!

Keeping the ball & keeping the defensive shape = much less running, you will slowly get a bit fitter each week, but for now you don't have to use up to much energy as well. Keeping the ball at the back will eventually force the opposition to push up & you can try and counter.

Shoot from range as well, if you miss then you're already in a good defensive position.

In fairness to all of this though, if you don't have a good keeper or striker in 5/6/7 a side, you'll probably never win a game!
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Re: 6-A-Side

Postby Briggsy on Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:00 pm

Clacton-ammer wrote:Line ups in 5/6 a side?? It's surely meant to be a fluid set up innit, pass/move/run...if your team is that unfit, leave two at the back, others are fluid, when one fluid starts blowing out of arris, change for one of the defenders and repeat.


It's only fluid if you have players who can run, pass, shot, control the ball, know how to move and so on. A good team knows how to play 5 a side as a team, not just run around like a headless chicken :D
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