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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby DasNutNock on Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:57 pm

White Goodman wrote:What are you going to switch to Dan?


A good question, and I don't really know the answer yet. My diesel golf is approaching its 12th birthday so isn't that much longer for the earth, but I'd prefer to drive it until it dies then just bin it. My mum wants a polo and she's offered me her 10-reg Golf as a replacement/second car. It has a smaller engine (1.6/5spd) than mine (2.0/6spd) and is of the generation where VW started fiddling the numbers, so I'm not enormously keen to take it. But a free car is still a free car...

Ideally, I'd be looking at us running 2 cars, both electric. 1 very small car for commuting, and a family car also for commuting, but also for trips to France and weekend stuff. That'd be far too much money (you know me), and I'm disinclined to be an early adopter of electric, purely because the kinks need to be worked out first.

I'd guess we'll muddle on with these two Golfs for the time being, then replace them as one or both conk out completely.
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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby DasNutNock on Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:00 pm

As for brands, I'd rather look at the Japs & Koreans at the moment. To my knowledge, they haven't been fiddling emissions tests, plus I like their long warranties. I'm definitely entering a phase of seeing daily cars as overpriced white goods.

I very rarely get to "enjoy" motoring any more, but if the opportunity arises, I'd like to restore & run something I legitimately consider a classic, on the side of the daily car. An early Escort or Cortina would be a nice place to start, or maybe a Triumph TR4 or an Austin Healy 3000.
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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby Hammers Dad on Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:01 pm

White Goodman wrote:What are you going to switch to Dan?


Probably this to go with his bike

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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby White Goodman on Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:03 pm

certainly take your point about early adoption of electric cars. For me the infrastructure is not quite there yet and I'm too disorganised to remember to charge **** up etc.

What I don't want is to get another lease on a petrol/diesel car and be stuck with it for a few years once the world moves on.

Timing is everything here
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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby DasNutNock on Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:07 pm

White Goodman wrote:Timing is everything here


Bingo - I'd expect the infrastructure to be seriously improved over the next 3-5 years, and the products & prices improved accordingly. We actually appear to have quite a few charging places near me, that do free leccy, as well as spaces at work with chargers, to for daily motoring, I think we'd be okay today. But the tech is still relatively new, and I wouldn't be surprised if we hear of a quantum leap in battery efficiency or motoring costs in the very near future.

I also think leasing will become the dominant form of "ownership" when the switch to leccy becomes mainstream, with private ownership seriously dropping. What that means in terms of depreciation, recycling, environmental damage and energy efficiency is anyone's guess.
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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby DasNutNock on Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:09 pm

Hammers Dad wrote:Probably this to go with his bike


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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby Johnny Pa(i)ntsil on Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:56 pm

Subaru, 5x now.


Between the dogs and the outdoor gear, I'm their stereotypical marketed-to customer.
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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby hammerdivone on Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:57 pm

Dan posing with his new motor

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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby Monkeybubbles on Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:08 pm

Very disappointed. I thought the question was "What are you going to switch to now you're boycotting vadge?".
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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby irons88 on Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:13 am

Only had 4 cars in the 12 years I’ve been driving!

02 plate Renault Clio 1.4 16v
06 VW Golf 2.0 TDI
64 Seat Leon FR 1.4 TSI
17 Seat Leon FR 1.8 TSI.

Really like VW group cars, good to drive, well made and good variety. Wouldn’t mind another VW or an Audi next.
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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby Tristan Shout on Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:21 am

I've had mainly vauxhalls for some odd reason, I've had a
Nova, corsa, meriva, vectra, carlton, signum,
My first car was a mini 1000, I've also owned a Renault laguna, citroen Picasso, bmw 316, fiat stilo, Ford escort, and I'm currently driving a kia ceed
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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby Greatest Cockney Rip Off on Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:44 pm

DasNutNock wrote:I very rarely get to "enjoy" motoring any more, but if the opportunity arises, I'd like to restore & run something I legitimately consider a classic, on the side of the daily car. An early Escort or Cortina would be a nice place to start, or maybe a Triumph TR4 or an Austin Healy 3000.


Can I offer a word of advice? Don't - not unless you have a LOT of time and a LOT of spare cash.
The idea of owning an old classic is nice, but the reality is different (obviously depending on which car you go for). It'll almost certainly be a money pit and something you'll spend more time maintaining than actually driving. I know two blokes who've got classics, one an Austin Healy which he's just about given up on after chucking thousands into it. The second owns a Triumph Stag which I don't think has ever been out of his garage in the last couple of years due to the work that needed doing. He again has chucked thousands at it. If you're handy with a spanner and not afraid to take on big jobs then that'll save you some cash, but if not, specialist mechanics will charge bundles for labour. Although parts may be sourced through various forums, they won't be readily available and you may struggle with some parts or end up paying a lot for them.
Another mate who lives near me restores and runs old Citreons. His garden is full of parts and at present, he does have a running motor but it's so unreliable, every time he takes it out, he's worried something will go wrong.
I tried running an early Yamaha FZ750 as my main bike and it was a total nightmare. It was just a succession of failing parts and electrical problems and although it helped to improve my mechanic skills, I was stuck at the side of the road, usually in pouring rain, fiddling with various tools that I luckily carried with me trying to get it going again. I finally gave up on it after breaking down in the pouring rain in Kent and sold it to a bike mechanic who'd been after one for years. I spoke to him a short while afterwards and he informed me there was a crack in the swing arm that if it had broke at speed, would have ended up quadrospazzing me.

Never again.
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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby Georgee Paris on Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:48 pm

1, Ford Fiesta
2, Subaru Impreza
3, bmw e28
4, Audi TT (mk2)
5, Dacia duster
6, Toyota MR2 (mk3)

May have had a few other company cars in between and used family / other half’s / hire cars. I think I went through my whole 20s without owning a car whilst living in London.
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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby DasNutNock on Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:54 pm

Did you get on with the Duster?
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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby Georgee Paris on Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:10 pm

Still got it - it’s brilliant. Cost nothing compared to other new cars and even tho it’s only the 4x2 version coped fantastically in the snow. One of the best sensible decisions I ever made.
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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby DasNutNock on Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:47 pm

Every third car in France is a Duster. They patently know something that VAG-obsessed Britain dont.
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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby Clucking Bell on Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:09 am

Greatest Cockney Rip Off wrote:Can I offer a word of advice? Don't - not unless you have a LOT of time and a LOT of spare cash.


What he said!

I've had a GT6 in my garage for the last thirty years and I reckon I've driven the best part of a thousand miles in it :) It cost me seventeen large to bring it across the pond ...... which is approximately seventeen large more than I should have spent.
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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby White Goodman on Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:34 am

Clucking Bell wrote:
What he said!

I've had a GT6 in my garage for the last thirty years and I reckon I've driven the best part of a thousand miles in it :) It cost me seventeen large to bring it across the pond ...... which is approximately seventeen large more than I should have spent.


Aren't you an engineering doctorate with a background in the automotive industry? Surely you must be the ideal owner , unlike me who would probably take a few weeks to figure out how to open the bonnet.
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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby Monkeybubbles on Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:28 am

Clucking Bell wrote:
What he said!

I've had a GT6 in my garage for the last thirty years and I reckon I've driven the best part of a thousand miles in it :) It cost me seventeen large to bring it across the pond ...... which is approximately seventeen large more than I should have spent.


I bought a 1972 Volvo P1800es last year. Been great, only problem was a snapped accelerator cable which cost £36 and took ten minutes to replace.

On the other hand, I only take it out of the garage two or three times a week, and never when the weather's crappy.

I really enjoy it, but I've never been able to define why.
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Re: Auto Brand Loyalty

Postby Tenbury on Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:02 pm

Bought the kids'mother a '69 Fiat 500 (RHD) four years ago when I was a bit flush,and was trying to apologise for moving her back to the UK from Italy.Massive error....
Constant fettling.
Consumes a good deal of wedge just to stay on the road.
Stays in the shed 10 months of the year
It's bloody slow..
I can't get into it.
She still thinks I'm an arse anyway.
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