Pie & Mash etiquette

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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Big George on Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:58 pm

Up the Junction wrote:Your answers please:

1. Do you eat your pies face up, or upside down?
face up

2. Do you eat with a knife and fork or a fork and spoon?
fork & spoon

3. The mash: ice cream scoops or scraped on the side?
as served but prefer scraped

4. Accompanying drink: mug of tea, orange squash or something else?
whatevers good but ice cold orange @ Robins working for me at the mo

5. Do you take your plate back to the counter upon leaving?
if it’s still there, yes


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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby IABATAC on Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:04 am

Pies crust side down (means flipping - all part of the ritual) then split the soft underbelly and fill with vinegar.

Mash scraped - scooping is for ice cream and dog turds.

Fork and spoon - knives are an abomination in any respectable P&M establishment.

Drink - have what you like but a can of fizzy drink must be warm (its a tradition or an old charter or something*)

Plate can be left on the table but only if you're a P&M face - until you've earned this right you must take it back to the counter.

Bon appetit




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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Greatest Cockney Rip Off on Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:17 am

Ice cream scoops? rape that ****er with a carrot!

It's scrapes all the way.
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby westham,eggyandchips on Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:49 am

1. Do you eat your pies face up, or upside down? Face down

2. Do you eat with a knife and fork or a fork and spoon? Spoon and fork

3. The mash: ice cream scoops or scraped on the side? Out of my hands, depends where I eat

4. Accompanying drink: mug of tea, orange squash or something else?Tea all the way!

5. Do you take your plate back to the counter upon leaving? No, someone else is paid to do that job
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Patito on Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:30 am

1. As served

2. Fork and spoon

3. Prefer scraped

4. Tea

5. Always take it back to the counter if it's still there!
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Mayday on Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:46 am

FFS. I can't believe there are so many philistines on here. Call yourselves Eastenders/cockneys/etc. *rolly eyes*.

The correct answers are (and there is no debate about this):

1. Served Up. - can be flipped over by the eater if you so wish. (This is the only choice you get to make)
2. Spoon and fork. - there is no need for a knife to exist in a P&M shop. Full stop.
3. Scraped
4. Tea - always tea.
5. Take plate back (basic manners) unless said plate is removed by staff and table wiped while you sit there drinking tea.

And it is always non-brewed vinegar and white pepper over everything (pie,mash,liquor) - not chilli vinegar.
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby fmgod on Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:02 am

1. Do you eat your pies face up, or upside down? As served, so normally face up

2. Do you eat with a knife and fork or a fork and spoon? Fork and spoon

3. The mash: ice cream scoops or scraped on the side? Scraped

4. Accompanying drink: mug of tea, orange squash or something else? Probably a bottle of coke

5. Do you take your plate back to the counter upon leaving? Normally a takeaway so N/A

Has to be served with liquor to me.
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby CentenaryUpperHammer on Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:28 pm

Up the Junction wrote:Your answers please:

1. Do you eat your pies face up, or upside down?
Face Up

2. Do you eat with a knife and fork or a fork and spoon?
Fork & Spoon

3. The mash: ice cream scoops or scraped on the side?
Scraped - Duncans mash was my fave

4. Accompanying drink: mug of tea, orange squash or something else?
Dr Pepper

5. Do you take your plate back to the counter upon leaving?
Yes


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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby chigwells finest on Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:46 pm

never had it , looks wonderful , but i dont think i'd like the liquor and i dont like any butter in my mash either , plus whats in the pie :-)

probably best i stick to large cod and chips
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby sendô on Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:25 pm

Two and two, covered in liquor and with a cup of tea.

As to the pies and the mash, however it's given to me. I don't really have a preference.

Now I think about it I've not had Pie & Mash since in the run up to the last election when the UKIP leader of the time (scouse ginger twonk) came in surrounded by journalists to do his "man of the people" bit.
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby woodgreenspur on Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:29 pm

Up the Junction wrote:Your answers please:

1. Do you eat your pies face up, or upside down?
Face up,split the crust with the spoon so the vinegar gets inside

2. Do you eat with a knife and fork or a fork and spoon?
Fork and spoon

3. The mash: ice cream scoops or scraped on the side?
Scraped on the side

4. Accompanying drink: mug of tea, orange squash or something else?
Tea,sometimes two

5. Do you take your plate back to the counter upon leaving?
Yes,manners cost nothing.


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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby cockney hammer on Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:52 pm

Face up,split the crust with the spoon so the vinegar gets inside




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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby psychoscoredthelot on Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:05 pm

1. Do you eat your pies face up, or upside down?
face up

2. Do you eat with a knife and fork or a fork and spoon?
fork & spoon

3. The mash: ice cream scoops or scraped on the side?
as served but prefer scraped

4. Accompanying drink: mug of tea, orange squash or something else?
tea or a coke zero

5. Do you take your plate back to the counter upon leaving?
if it’s still there, yes

Has to be chilli vinegar too
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby light n bitter on Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:32 pm

1. Do you eat your pies face up, or upside down? up

2. Do you eat with a knife and fork or a fork and spoon? spoon and fork

3. The mash: ice cream scoops or scraped on the side? scraped

4. Accompanying drink: mug of tea, orange squash or something else? no drink

5. Do you take your plate back to the counter upon leaving? yes
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Bend it like Repka on Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:05 pm

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Imagine serving that plate on Masterchef.

"There's too much on the plate, the mash mountains are not symmetrical, the pie crust is burnt in places and the overall presentation looks like someone has spilled a whole jar of green pesto over it.

I'm sure it is a wonderful East End dish, and I'm sure I'm a heretic who will be burned at the the KUMB stake and have my status as a West Ham fan revoked, but to be honest, it looks just ****ing disgusting.

Why have all that nonsense with the pie when you can have chips and ketchup?

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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Coops on Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:19 pm

I except that I may be banned for being a blood traitor for saying this, but my favourite Pie Mash shop is Manzes in Tower Bridge Road. I used to have a stall at Bermondsey Market so it was my regular.

1. Do you eat your pies face up, or upside down?
Face up

2. Do you eat with a knife and fork or a fork and spoon?
Fork & spoon

3. The mash: ice cream scoops or scraped on the side?
Scraped

4. Accompanying drink: mug of tea, orange squash or something else?
Mug of strong tea, anything else just wouldn't be right.

5. Do you take your plate back to the counter upon leaving?
Back if it's not been cleared.

Double double please, heavy on the liquor.
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby southbrishammer on Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:23 pm

Forgive my mid-Essex ignorance, but why do you lot insist on eating pies with a spoon - don't you need a knife to cut the pastry, or is it part of the ritual that you must use the spoon as a blunt cutting tool, or do proper East End pies have particularly soft crusts?
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Samba on Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:52 am

chigwells finest wrote:never had it , looks wonderful , but i dont think i'd like the liquor and i dont like any butter in my mash either , plus whats in the pie :-)
probably best i stick to large cod and chips

The green liquor* is surprisingly pleasant. The mash NEVER has butter in it, which is why it needs the lubricating liquor.
The meat is usually minced beef in the pie. No onion, gristle or bits of bone.
Liquor warning*: When hot or warm.
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Samba on Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:56 am

Bend it like Repka wrote:Imagine serving that plate on Masterchef.
"There's too much on the plate, the mash mountains are not symmetrical, the pie crust is burnt in places and the overall presentation looks like someone has spilled a whole jar of green pesto over it.
I'm sure it is a wonderful East End dish, and I'm sure I'm a heretic who will be burned at the the KUMB stake and have my status as a West Ham fan revoked, but to be honest, it looks just ****ing disgusting.

You wait til you see stewed & jellied eels!
You're not a Northerner, are you? :wink:
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Samba on Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:11 am

southbrishammer wrote:Forgive my mid-Essex ignorance, but why do you lot insist on eating pies with a spoon - don't you need a knife to cut the pastry, or is it part of the ritual that you must use the spoon as a blunt cutting tool, or do proper East End pies have particularly soft crusts?

Good question.
The spoon is quite often favoured, imho, because the (usually) copious amounts of liquor turn the pie(s) & mash('s) into quite a wet meal. This turns the fork into more of a 'holding' tool whilst the spoon can transfer liquidish food to the mouth-hole. Although the fork is well used for that as well, there is an obvious, increased risk of some leakage occuring between plate & said cake-hole.
The pies, whether of the Nathan's 'short' pastry variety or the Robin's 'flaky' pastry variety, both being very unlike the 'handle' of a Cornish Pasty, are as easily cut with a spoon as with a knife. The choice is happily yours.
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