Pie & Mash etiquette

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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby DasNutNock on Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:21 pm

Ok, I'm in. I'm about to inform the wife - will report her reaction in a moment...
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby DasNutNock on Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:30 pm

Furrowed brow and murmored "okay then".
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Samba on Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:04 am

DasNutNock wrote:I'm picturing nicely cooked chunks of beef

Oh dear..
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Samba on Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:07 am

Mega Ron wrote:I'm tempted to try it too.
I think I'll find somewhere before or after the march for the Southampton game.

As you're in the borough Ron, gotta be Nathan's, ain't it?
Mind you. that's Easter, isn't it? Might not be open that Saturday. It would have to be before as well, as they close about 6.
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby DasNutNock on Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:39 am

My eldest has vetoed P&M this weekend. Wants to have Turkish instead.
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby sendô on Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:32 am

I can't believe there are this many West Ham fans who have never had Pie & Mash with liquor.
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby scobie on Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:40 pm

I have always inverted the pies and go in with a spoon and fork to watch the innards spill out to mingle with the Ambrosia delights of liquor and chilli vinegar shaken from an old sterilised milk bottle.
I can't believe that The Noted Pie and Eel House in Leytonstone, along from the Plough and Harrow pub, has failed to get a mention. They favour the "scoop" rather than the more traditional "slap and scrap". I discussed this with my mate Jeff Della Mura, yes him of ice cream fame, and we both agreed that the "slap and scrap" is a far better means of potato distribution due to having greater liquor retention properties. If you are in Leytonstone pop along and treat yourself to some of the best P & M in the east end courtesy of Les the Pie.
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Mega Ron on Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:17 pm

Samba wrote:As you're in the borough Ron, gotta be Nathan's, ain't it?
Mind you. that's Easter, isn't it? Might not be open that Saturday. It would have to be before as well, as they close about 6.


I'm not going to the game so can do after the march
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Samba on Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:35 pm

scobie wrote:I discussed this with my mate Jeff Della Mura, yes him of ice cream fame

Della Mura's 'Lemon Ice'. Now you're talking. Superb.
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Rocketron on Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:34 pm

sendô wrote:I can't believe there are this many West Ham fans who have never had Pie & Mash with liquor.

I don't come from the area, I find it strange that grown men eat like children. :lol:
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby southbrishammer on Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:43 pm

So is there any link between pie & mash and eels, or do they both just happen to be East End delicacies? And can you still get eels now the Thames is so polluted?
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby sendô on Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:46 pm

Delicacy?

Pie & Mash is a traditional east end meal because it is cheap, warm and filling.

Not sure about the eels but then jellied eels are rank.

Cockles and whelks on the other hand...
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Samba on Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:54 pm

Mega Ron wrote:I'm not going to the game so can do after the march

Misread march for match..
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Samba on Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:06 pm

southbrishammer wrote:So is there any link between pie & mash and eels, or do they both just happen to be East End delicacies? And can you still get eels now the Thames is so polluted?

Yes, like p&m, stewed or jellied eels, used to be very cheap. As I believe oysters once were!
Popular in the East End, purely for reasons of poverty & availability.
The eels that Nathan's use are from Northern Ireland & are no longer a cheap commodity to buy!
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby The Old Man of Storr on Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:02 am

Up the Junction wrote:Your answers please:

1. Do you eat your pies face up, or upside down?

2. Do you eat with a knife and fork or a fork and spoon?

3. The mash: ice cream scoops or scraped on the side?

4. Accompanying drink: mug of tea, orange squash or something else?

5. Do you take your plate back to the counter upon leaving?



1. Face up .
2. Knife , Fork and Spoon .
3. As it comes , not fussed .
4. Mug of tea .
5. Yes .
6. I have pie , mash AND eels .


Whenever I'm in Maldon I always try to visit the Pie 'n Mash Shop , always alone as no one else in my family likes eels , there used to be a great second hand book shop there but it closed down [ I think ] so now have to settle for the many charity shops .
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Happyhammer52 on Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:35 am

1. Do you eat your pies face up, or upside down? Upside down, then sprinkle some vinegar and pepper inside.

2. Do you eat with a knife and fork or a fork and spoon? Knife and Spoon

3. The mash: ice cream scoops or scraped on the side? Scraped

4. Accompanying drink: mug of tea, orange squash or something else? Can of pop

5. Do you take your plate back to the counter upon leaving? Take it back, and always say thank you.

As for eels, never once tried them, my Grandad loved them. My Nan told me once that she came home to the most repulsive smell in the house, and he had attempted to boil them. Attempted being the key word as when she went in the kitchen he was wrestling with one of them :lol:
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Coops on Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:09 pm

When I was a kid there were always big family celebrations, proper traditional East End knees ups (yes they did play KUMB). Jellied eels would always be served. I could never bring myself to eat one as a kid and nothing has changed as an adult. I have come close a few times but it always looks so rank that I couldn't put it in my mouth.
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby Cockneyboy311 on Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:15 pm

Pie & Mash, it's a bit meh really. I'll eat it but it's pretty bland.

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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby iLoveLasagne on Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:04 pm

My inclination to eat pie and mash is similar to Mcdonalds. I will go at least a year without having it then will give it a go cos I fancy it and think it might be nice. Then after eating it I will remember why I went so long without it. I agree it is bland. Would much rather a pie with gravy and chunky filling like a good northern pie.
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Re: Pie & Mash etiquette

Postby psychoscoredthelot on Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:51 pm

last caress & UTJ

if you ask them nicely at Sainsys P&M in lakeside they will give you proper spoon and fork as long as you return them afterwards 8-)
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