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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:42 pm

if you can make head or tail with this....

if not maybe someone speaks IT-ese..

:D

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/ins ... 8a16e8fc7d
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby sicknote on Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:12 am

What the ****'s an SSD

Do I catch that if I wipe my knob on the screen

Maybe I should go to the clinic
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby uptonparkhurst on Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:47 pm

Cuenca 'ammer wrote:if you can make head or tail with this....

if not maybe someone speaks IT-ese..

:D

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I've had a quick butcher's ( :shock: )
it appears that Lenovo consider T410's to be nearing "end-of-life" and they cannot be arsed to offer support -
in particular for the driver for the NVIDIA NVS3100M graphics card (if that is what TOMOS has got).
I suppose the answer is - "suck it and see".

TOMOS - if you decide to give Linux a try -
you can get UBUNTU 18.04 (the latest Long Term support offering) on a USB stick for £10.
(EBAY seller has 100% rating)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ubuntu-Linux-18-04-Complete-Operating-System-and-Software-on-Bootable-USB-Stick/263958234614?hash=item3d752305f6:g:970AAOSwFXRbqtJy
You can boot off the USB (as opposed to your Windows hard-drive) by selecting the one-time-boot option
as soon as the boot screen appears after you've powered on (probably by pressing F12 ?)

If you install Ubuntu - you may still need to faff around to get an NVIDIA driver.
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby peter49uk on Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:18 am

HP laptop stopped working a couple weeks ago, put it in my local shop, they said hard drive was knacked. Offered a second hand drive £45 a new one £75 and a new solid state drive £85 I said is it worth it, thinking get a new one, and they said if you go for the sold state it will be like a new laptop and where would you get a new one for that.
So had it done, they were able to save all my stuff and transfer it over and they even put the starter Word program on for me.
Very happy and so far all good.
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby uptonparkhurst on Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:27 pm

peter49uk wrote:HP laptop stopped working a couple weeks ago, put it in my local shop, they said hard drive was knacked. Offered a second hand drive £45 a new one £75 and a new solid state drive £85 I said is it worth it, thinking get a new one, and they said if you go for the sold state it will be like a new laptop and where would you get a new one for that.
So had it done, they were able to save all my stuff and transfer it over and they even put the starter Word program on for me.
Very happy and so far all good.


The hard-drive was knackered, but they still managed to save all your stuff? Righto..
I hope you asked for the drive back, so that you could check it for yourself.
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby The Old Man of Storr on Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:35 pm

peter49uk wrote:HP laptop stopped working a couple weeks ago, put it in my local shop, they said hard drive was knacked. Offered a second hand drive £45 a new one £75 and a new solid state drive £85 I said is it worth it, thinking get a new one, and they said if you go for the sold state it will be like a new laptop and where would you get a new one for that.
So had it done, they were able to save all my stuff and transfer it over and they even put the starter Word program on for me.
Very happy and so far all good.



I know the hard drive is fine [ well 95% certain ] as I got it working the first time it happened - probably needs a W7 disc reinstalled but seeing as I haven't got a W7 disc I'd be happy to pay for having my files transferred on to a new 1TB drive - I'll have a look to see what Elgin has to offer .
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby The Old Man of Storr on Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:50 pm

UPH - Thanks for the link to that Ebay Seller , he also sells a range of repair discs , I may well drop him a line , cheers , mate .

I'm not at all familiar with Ubuntu - I've looked into it a bit , positives are , no viruses [ as far as I'm aware anyway ] other than that I wouldn't know how it works .
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby peter49uk on Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:41 pm

That’s the trouble when you know next to nothing about comp’s, I can see what you are saying now uptonparkhurst.
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby The Old Man of Storr on Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:15 am

peter49uk wrote:That’s the trouble when you know next to nothing about comp’s, I can see what you are saying now uptonparkhurst.


The thing is you had your laptop back and working for a price you were happy with - I'd have done the same under the circumstances - I got mine working the first time it happened but I can't get it going now so if someone were to say ' It'll cost you £85 for a new HD with all your files transferred onto it ' , I'd have accepted it .
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby uptonparkhurst on Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:09 pm

The Old Man of Storr wrote:UPH - Thanks for the link to that Ebay Seller , he also sells a range of repair discs , I may well drop him a line , cheers , mate .

I'm not at all familiar with Ubuntu - I've looked into it a bit , positives are , no viruses [ as far as I'm aware anyway ] other than that I wouldn't know how it works .


Ubuntu bring out a new release every 6 months(April and October) . The 2018/04 release is a Long Term Support release (3 years) and there will be a new LTS release in 2020/04. Any teething troubles should have been ironed out by now. If you allow Ubuntu to take over the whole hard-drive then installation is
very straightforward.

As for viruses - all I can say is that I've never managed to get one despite some rather ..er exotic surfing.
I did see a YOUTUBE clip of a guy that got one from visiting Pirate Bay, but that's it.

The main things to get your head around are -
1) Updates - you get full control of when Ubuntu checks for security updates and other tweaks and how they are applied. You may not like the defaults. (I'm still running 16/04 so I don't know what they are)
2) Adding/removing sofware.
You almost never download programs from a web site. (Off the top of my head Google Chrome is the
only exception I can think of). There is a Software centre that lets you download programs from a
repository so that you don't run the risk of viruses or of installing a program version that won't play nicely with your version of Ubuntu).
3) Windows programs won't run on Linux
(there is a package called WINE that "pretends" to be Windows running under Ubuntu, as it were
but YMMV). Most people can, I suspect, easily make do with LibreOffice (instead of Word) and
there is also GIMP - a poor man's version of Photoshop, of which I know very little.
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby uptonparkhurst on Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:32 pm

The Old Man of Storr wrote: The thing is you had your laptop back and working for a price you were happy with - I'd have done the same under the circumstances - I got mine working the first time it happened but I can't get it going now so if someone were to say ' It'll cost you £85 for a new HD with all your files transferred onto it ' , I'd have accepted it .


If you boot off a Ubuntu usb/DVD your hard-drive (assuming it is OK) will show in the File Manager,
just as if it was a gigantic USB stick that you'd plugged in). You should be able to navigate to
MY DOCUMENTS and see all your files, and copy them to another external drive.
There won't be much space on the Ubuntu USB and it may not be configured to retain any data after the
session is over - so use something else: ideally a drive in an external caddy.
If you copy stuff to a USB stick bear in mind that your typical stick is in FAT format - the maximum size of an individual file e.g. a film - is approx 4.3GB.
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby The Old Man of Storr on Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:07 pm

Thanks for that , mate , it's very helpful . :thup:


If I can get my old Lenovo up and running with this Ubuntu stick I'd be overjoyed -
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby DasNutNock on Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:10 pm

The Old Man of Storr wrote:Thanks for that , mate , it's very helpful . :thup:


If I can get my old Lenovo up and running with this Ubuntu stick I'd be overjoyed -


You should be able to boot off a USB stick with Ubuntu binaries loaded on it, so you can test how it will look and feel before you go ahead and permanently install it. You might need to change your laptop BIOS to bump "Boot from USB" up the boot order.
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby alkali on Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:13 pm

So so tempted to say ‘buy cheap, buy twice, get a Mac, enjoy the rest of your life...’ but I couldn’t possibly be such an arse.
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby The Old Man of Storr on Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:10 pm

DasNutNock wrote:
You should be able to boot off a USB stick with Ubuntu binaries loaded on it, so you can test how it will look and feel before you go ahead and permanently install it. You might need to change your laptop BIOS to bump "Boot from USB" up the boot order.


One suggestion of what the problem was is that the BIOS order had somehow changed but I looked into things and it looked normal - I'll be able to locate the USB stick if I decide to go down that route , cheers , Dan . :thup:
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby The Old Man of Storr on Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:20 pm

alkali wrote:So so tempted to say ‘buy cheap, buy twice, get a Mac, enjoy the rest of your life...’ but I couldn’t possibly be such an arse.


When I bought the Lenovo T410 it was all I could afford at the time - for £276 it lasted me 4 years + and did everything I wanted , it's as tough as old boots , considering it's now 8 years old it doesn't owe me a thing .

I inherited a bit of money a couple of years ago and decided to buy a laptop with it - I could have bought a Mac but wanted something more solid , Macbooks look a bit on the thin side to me and I was used to Windows 7 so I went with a Dell workstation . I like it .
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby DasNutNock on Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:24 am

You can download Ubuntu here

https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop

There’s a similar site for Linux mint, which I haven’t personally tried, but is a popular build of the OS.

Download the installer and copy to the USB stick, shouldn’t need to buy a special one with the file pre-copied to it, especially if you have access to another machine in the house.

There’s instructions here for the Ubuntu deployment on how to create a bootable USB disk using a windows machine https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/t ... -windows#0. It uses Rufus to create the boot device https://rufus.akeo.ie/
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby The Old Man of Storr on Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:18 pm

That's brilliant , Dan , thank you - we're going back to Skye tonight as our boy , Dan has nearly 3 weeks holiday from his College , we've fibre optic broadband at home but we won't be set up with broadband until 16th October at our house in Elgin .

Our boy has a couple of laptops that we've bought him over the years , an old Lenovo Ideapad and an Acer Predator for his gaming , we were told that he'd need a laptop for college so Jen looked at a few Chromebooks for him and settled for a Lenovo model which arrived this morning from a firm in Belfast - it's brilliant , holds its charge well and cost all of 85 pounds - only drawback is it came with an US keyboard .

If I can't get my T410 going again I'd be tempted to buy a Chromebook - my Dell 7710 does everything else I need .
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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby Johnny Byrne's Boots on Tue Oct 02, 2018 2:24 pm

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Re: Laptop Problems -

Postby uptonparkhurst on Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:30 pm

The Old Man of Storr wrote:That's brilliant , Dan , thank you - we're going back to Skye tonight as our boy , Dan has nearly 3 weeks holiday from his College , we've fibre optic broadband at home but we won't be set up with broadband until 16th October at our house in Elgin .

Our boy has a couple of laptops that we've bought him over the years , an old Lenovo Ideapad and an Acer Predator for his gaming , we were told that he'd need a laptop for college so Jen looked at a few Chromebooks for him and settled for a Lenovo model which arrived this morning from a firm in Belfast - it's brilliant , holds its charge well and cost all of 85 pounds - only drawback is it came with an US keyboard .

If I can't get my T410 going again I'd be tempted to buy a Chromebook - my Dell 7710 does everything else I need .


Don't ever give up on the T410,mate.

I've got an ancient dual-core laptop that I use for Ebay/Paypal/Amazon etc - and only those sites.
I've got a dual-core desktop plugged in to my telly so that I can watch stuff I've downloaded off YOUTUBE etc, plus streams, Both running Lubuntu - which is Ubuntu's less flash but speedier little brother.
There's also an i-3 that I bought on Ebay that was supposed to have had a blank disk but it had a copy
of Windows 7 on it - so I was able to compare how it fared against Lubuntu. It lost.
There's nothing to boast about in owning 3 crap computers, but the point is -
If you don't do gaming, and you don't need any specialist programs there's no need to ever splash the cash.

At the risk of boring you even further, there is a superb little Linux program called CPULIMIT that let's
you tell the computer how much CPU power to allow a job to use - for instance you might want to rip
a DVD on to your hard-drive in compressed format. Old machines like mine would normally give it 100%
cpu,causing it to overheat and not allowing anything else to run, but CPULIMIT means I can run these
jobs without borking the computer - it just takes longer.

Yes, I am a skinflint..
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