Trump

[DaveWHU1964]

The bloke is all over the shop. More than once he has said that "it's time for us to get out of Afghanistan". He is now sending another 4,000 US troops there.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/21/worl ... istan.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Still - his advisers knew how to "engage" and change the mind of a volatile, readily changeble mind. They got him on side with regards to increased, rather than decreased American deployment to Afghanistan by showing him a picture of Afghan women in mini skirts ....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 07366.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[White Goodman]

Saw this morning that he has said "We will build the wall, even if i have to shut the Government down"

I'm not quite sure how that works but it is certainly in keeping with his increasingly mental utterances.

[Hammer1972]

Not worth a new thread, but related to Trump and all that is wrong with the world:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-41011528

A woman who has been handed everything from birth and married into wealth mocking someone for not being as rich as her and thinking paying taxes is 'self sacrifice'.

What an utter ****.

[WCpete]

Saw this morning that he has said "We will build the wall, even if i have to shut the Government down"

I'm not quite sure how that works but it is certainly in keeping with his increasingly mental utterances.

It won't happen. That's the hot button his base in Arizona cares about, so when in Arizona or Texas, he gives it a good push.

[Johnny Byrne's Boots]

HaveIGotNewsForYou‏Verified account @haveigotnews 3h3 hours ago

Trump claims he'll do whatever it takes to get Mexican wall built, as part of campaign to "Make America Grout Again".

[bitter-iron-ny]

Saw this morning that he has said "We will build the wall, even if i have to shut the Government down"

I'm not quite sure how that works but it is certainly in keeping with his increasingly mental utterances.

September is the end of the fiscal year. Trump is threatening to veto required spending legislation if it doesn't contain funding for the wall - the one he guaranteed Mexico would pay for. If that legislation doesn't get enacted then the federal government shuts down. Most of it anyway.

[Johnny Byrne's Boots]

And another one bites the dust

US President Donald Trump's hawkish deputy national security adviser, Sebastian Gorka, has left the White House, it has been confirmed.
The latest White House departure came a week after his ally, ultra-conservative White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, was dismissed.
It is unclear whether Mr Gorka was also sacked or quit of his own accord.
He was quoted as writing in a letter that some in the White House were was seeking to undermine Mr Trump.
"[G]iven recent events, it is clear to me that forces that do not support the MAGA [Make America Great Again] promise are - for now - ascendant within the White House," he reportedly wrote in the letter, printed on conservative news site the Federalist.

more...

It would appear his day job was to find and promulgate anything favourable to Drumpf.

[WCpete]

The Phoenix Times seems very pleased over Arpaio's pardon.

https://twitter.com/phoenixnewtimes/sta ... 4087334914

[bitter-iron-ny]

It would appear his day job was to find and promulgate anything favourable to Drumpf.

Gorka may have been the biggest buffoon of the bunch. A national security "expert" whose character was so suspect that he couldn't even get a low level security clearance. Basically was not qualified to do anything and not deemed educated or reliable enough to be given any responsibility other than going on TV and spouting utter nonsense in a hostile manner. Now he can keep doing that on the Breitbart payroll rather than having the US taxpayers pay his way.

[fjthegrey]

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/28/polit ... index.html
Another lie to add to the list. Probably a little more serious than the attention it's gathered warrants.

I'm reminded of a scene in A Scanner Darkly where Freck encounters an inter dimensional alien during one of his limbo trips. 'Your sins will be read to you ceaselessly, in shifts, throughout eternity. The list will never end.'

Could do the same with Trump's lies.

[WCpete]

An interesting little story from here in San Francisco. In retaliation of Russia kicking some US diplomats out of Russia, the Trump administration closed the Russian consulate here in SF. It is to be vacated by EOD tomorrow. in SF the temperature reached 101* (38.3 C) today. Nonetheless the Russians have had their fireplaces burning all day long. Thick black smoke has been flowing from their chimneys. Bit warm here for wholesale document burning.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/us/article/S ... 167619.php

[bitter-iron-ny]

The latest on Trump's swamp-draining efforts:

Trump gets millions from golf members. CEOs and lobbyists get access to president

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/201 ... 632505001/

...The review shows that, for the first time in U.S. history, wealthy people with interests before the government have a chance for close and confidential access to the president as a result of payments that enrich him personally. It is a view of the president available to few other Americans.

Among Trump club members are top executives of defense contractors, a lobbyist for the South Korean government, a lawyer helping Saudi Arabia fight claims over the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and the leader of a pesticide trade group that sought successfully to persuade the Trump administration not to ban an insecticide government scientists linked to health risks.

Members of Trump’s clubs pay initiation fees that can exceed $100,000, plus thousands more in annual dues to his companies, held in a trust for his benefit.

The arrangement is legal, and members said they did not use the clubs to discuss government business. Nonetheless, ethics experts questioned whether it’s appropriate for a sitting president to collect money from lobbyists and others who spend their days trying to shape federal policy or win government business....

[delbert]

Is this something peculiar to Trump or have other presidents done similar?

One from earlier today. Paul Ross (a 2nd rate presenter with a more famous brother) was interviewing someone in Florida over the situation developing there in regards to the weather. He kept steering the topic onto the federal governments response despite the person at the other end keeping it local and factual, eventually Paul Ross ended the interview with "well Trump hasn't got a very good track record of dealing with these sort of disasters". How many to date has he had to deal with?

[bitter-iron-ny]

Is this something peculiar to Trump or have other presidents done similar?

One from earlier today. Paul Ross (a 2nd rate presenter with a more famous brother) was interviewing someone in Florida over the situation developing there in regards to the weather. He kept steering the topic onto the federal governments response despite the person at the other end keeping it local and factual, eventually Paul Ross ended the interview with "well Trump hasn't got a very good track record of dealing with these sort of disasters". How many to date has he had to deal with?

The only track record Trump has is that he looked to defund all the government agencies that are relevant to dealing with these type of situations. Really don't see how he rates criticism based on a non-existent track record. However it did take two trips to Houston and an intervening tutorial to explain to him how to show compassion and humanity, which is really the most important consideration in the moment. The heavy-lifting is further down the road when it comes to dealing with the aftermath and, hopefully, taking responsible preventive measures for the future.

[Morocco Mole]

Funnily enough the "disasters" are about the only thing he has done alright with.

[delbert]

. The heavy-lifting is further down the road when it comes to dealing with the aftermath and, hopefully, taking responsible preventive measures for the future.

That's exactly the point the bloke in Florida kept making, the initial crises management is down to the local authorities, sand bag provisioning and the like. But the interviewer kept on steering it back to what the federal government was doing, the bloke on the other end of the phone was sticking to facts instead of "what ifs", in the end Paul Ross ended the interview with the aforementioned line.
Trump is a cretin, we all get that, especially when it comes to gobbing off. People jumping on the anti Trump bandwagon with throw away comments over things he hasn't actually done detract from the things he actually has.
The way the majority of the media are taking kicks at him at every opportunity (and this case, wrongly), may well turn him into a victim figure, it was seen as a backlash that got him elected, it may be another one that keeps him there, silly comments by the likes of Jennifer Lawrence don't help things.......

[leeo272]

Pinched off of Twitter:

I'm sick of people calling Trump a white supremacist when no one has done more than him to prove that it isn't true.

[bitter-iron-ny]

Crisis with North Korea, natural disasters throughout the southeast and US Caribbean territories, zero legislative agenda on health care, taxes, etc. And where is our petty, infantile leader focused? On challenging the freedom of expression of NFL players. I don't exactly agree with their cause but unlike Trump I have actually read the Constitution and can grasp the basic provisions of the First Amendment. What a pathetic clown he is.

[Tenbury]

You don't really like him , do you?

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