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the pink palermo wrote: Again, agreed.

He's deliberately disruptive .He's not making Merkel, May et al feel uncomfortable by accident, he knows what he is doing.

The more I reject them they more they will love me , crave my attention


At heart he's a gambler, utterly reckless at times, but he has a plan, it's how he keeps control.

He likes playing with fire, he's a thrill seeker, and unhinged is bang on.
That's one possibilty, certainly. The other possibility is that he's just plain ****ing thick and therefore easily manipulated.

I reckon Putin's got dirt on him and knows where the skeletons are buried personally.
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Does anybody think he's got dementia?
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Monkeybubbles wrote:Does anybody think he's got dementia?
Not possible, dementia is fake news.
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WCpete wrote:This is pretty damning. PP & Faithless, turns out they did attack our power grid just this past March.
That is what happened again this week, twice.
Mr. Trump’s statement in Helsinki led Mr. Coats to reaffirm, in a statement he deliberately did not get cleared at the White House, that American intelligence agencies had no doubt that Russia was behind the 2016 hack.
That contributed to Mr. Trump’s decision on Tuesday to say that he had misspoken one word, and that he did believe Russia had interfered — although he also veered off script to declare: “Could be other people also. A lot of people out there.”
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And I just like this quote from an unnamed US diplomat:
The diplomat continued: “Either he’s compromised by Putin or he’s a pussy, in which case he should grab himself.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/us-offici ... a-sell-out
To quote The Don, "What the hell is going on"?
What's the general feeling over there, Pete?
Do you think some people are now regretting where they put their x?
The trouble is, I suppose although Hillary won the popular vote, she wasn't popular enough with the right-of-centre.
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Monkeybubbles wrote:Does anybody think he's got dementia?
No. Anything but.

He may be the victim of circumstance in some way, but he's deliberately throwing dead cats on the table, repeatedly.

And he's correct in a way that's uncomfortable for some. The Europeans have freeloaded on defence. The truth is that no one trusts the Germans with an army. Or the Russians.

We're British, so haven't had to live an occupation. Most of Europe has.

Most of them don't trust us either.
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Quite how she got that many votes I have no clue..

don't forget apart from the email scandal wherever you can place blame that you feel it fits..

The Democratic party "fixed it so Bernie Sanders couldn't win..."

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Senator Elizabeth Warren has said she agrees with a report that Hillary Clinton controlled key aspects of the Democratic Party's infrastructure to her own advantage during the presidential primaries in the run-up to last year's election.

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US President Donald Trump has called for an investigation after a Hillary Clinton supporter said the Democratic party "rigged" its primary for her.

CNN asked Senator Elizabeth Warren if Mrs Clinton's contest against Democratic rival Bernie Sanders was rigged, and she said: "Yes."

Another Democratic official writes in a new book about the party's "unethical" agreement with the Clinton campaign.


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Schultz said she would step down after the convention. She has been forced to step aside after a leak of internal DNC emails showed officials actively favouring Hillary Clinton during the presidential primary and plotting against Clinton’s rival, Bernie Sanders.

The most explosive new revelation from the WikiLeaks release was an official’s suggestion that Sanders’ religious faith, or lack thereof, could be flagged as a way to dissuade voters from backing him in Bible belt states.

“I think I read he is an atheist,” the DNC chief financial officer, Brad Marshall, wrote in one email. “This could make several points difference with my peeps. My Southern Baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.”

Sanders, who is Jewish, spoke little of religion during the primary, but the sight of a supposedly neutral body apparently seeking to weaken one of its own party candidates caused particular anger among progressives.

Schultz, a congresswoman from Florida who is herself Jewish, is not thought to have been directly involved in this email exchange, but she was seen in other messages writing dismissively of the Sanders campaign.

On Sunday, she said she had discussed her decision with Barack Obama, who appointed her in 2011, and with Clinton, in the interests of helping the party secure the election in November.

“Going forward, the best way for me to accomplish those goals is to step down as party chair at the end of this convention,” Wasserman Schultz said in a statement.
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Samba, I'm probably the wrong person to ask because I lead a fairly insulated life. I run my business from home, I tend to my family, I walk my dog and as a rule I to stay away from network and cable news outlets. On top of that, I live in San Francisco which won't be a good barometer for how the rest of this country is feeling (although it isn't as progressive as the rest of the world thinks).

My feeling is that the country is very frustrated with its leadership right across the board. There simply aren't any options, and the reality is there probably won't be any legitimate options anytime soon. Our Federal government simply isn't designed to address the needs of the populous. And the USA is so big and so diverse that even if the government's focus was on serving the needs of its people, it would invariably fail large constituencies.

I don't think Trump's base will regret having voted for him. They've gained political traction since the don decided to run for the Presidency. I think that as soon as it becomes crystal clear that he cannot and will not be re-elected, a lot of them, maybe most of them will jump ship. He's a vessel for whatever disparate social, economic and political disenfranchisements his base have. There's a very broad spectrum of people that voted for Trump. That's one of the mistakes the Democrats continue to make today. You simply can't lump all of the people that voted for him into one neat and tidy all defining silo. In some ways I think it will be easier for his base to find another candidate who could champion their myriad 'causes' than it will be for the Democrats to find a candidate who isn't full of sh*t. Cuenca is correct, Clinton was ordained to be the representative of the party by party officers who were seriously out of touch with its constituents and their issues. It was dirty and beyond disappointing. The Democratic Party needs a serious cleansing, a metaphoric high colonic. Just like the GOP, it's a party completely out of touch with its members. There's 60 years worth of pay check collecting toxic parasites that need to be flushed from the system.

In all fronts, the US needs to get itself back to center and take care of its people. In the meantime, this Putin & Trump nonsense has diverted attention away from the fact that there are still 2500 children who remain separated from their families.
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I don't have a finger of the pulse of politics etc..but the Democratic party seems as far away from it's base as the Republicans.....

imvho that is.......it's gone too far left as the Republicans are right..

The U.S. would really benefit from a third party but that won't happen...........

Look how popular Bernie was, but he was an avowed socialist..a person like that would never really gotten that much press in the "old days" he would have been exposed as the radical that he was,,

Hillary is a pratt of the highest order, a complete liar, covered for her sexually active husband and discrediting his accusers. That she came out in support of those accusers of Harvey Weinstein is a joke.

Trump is Trump. He is what he is and no politician..

He is what the American public needed as a person who is anti establishment..on paper that is...we do need a President who will empty the swamp but that should be what their respective parties should do from the top down.

McConnell should do for the Republicans but is too interested in his own self interest
Schumer should do it for the Democrats but see the above..

As Pete stated earlier there should be term limits for these pocket lining money grabber sycophants..both parties
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WCpete wrote:Samba, I'm probably the wrong person to ask because I lead a fairly insulated life. I run my business from home, I tend to my family, I walk my dog and as a rule I to stay away from network and cable news outlets. On top of that, I live in San Francisco which won't be a good barometer for how the rest of this country is feeling (although it isn't as progressive as the rest of the world thinks).
My feeling is that the country is very frustrated with its leadership right across the board. There simply aren't any options, and the reality is there probably won't be any legitimate options anytime soon. Our Federal government simply isn't designed to address the needs of the populous. And the USA is so big and so diverse that even if the government's focus was on serving the needs of its people, it would invariably fail large constituencies.
In all fronts, the US needs to get itself back to center and take care of its people. In the meantime, this Putin & Trump nonsense has diverted attention away from the fact that there are still 2500 children who remain separated from their families.
:thup:
I can't say we're much better off over here, mate!
We've got a right-of-centre party in charge, ripping themselves apart & the only real opposition (left-of-centre) party, led by a man who is always going to talk himself out of ever getting, the big job.
We're f***ed if we do & we're f***ed if we don't..
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Now the Don's invited Vlady to the White House for a play date,
which brings this scene to mind for some reason.
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Monkeybubbles wrote:Does anybody think he's got dementia?
He’s confused about where his father was born. That’s senility, right?
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Give him a chance, some people don't know who their father is........
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Well it looks like he's invited his boss over for tea, but didn't tell his housemates first.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44895384
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If the rumours about Crimea/Eastern Ukraine are correct then God help us. That said, I'll be interested to hear what Sturgeon and Salmond have to say about it, since they were so supportive of Catalan independence.
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Nearly 80 percent of Republicans approve of President Trump’s performance during his press conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, a new Axios/SurveyMonkey poll found.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... e-at-putin
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Trump 'secretly recorded discussing payment to Playboy model'
US President Donald Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen secretly recorded his client discussing payments to a former Playboy model, US media report.

The tapes were reportedly discovered during an FBI raid on Mr Cohen's property earlier this year in New York.

The New York Times reports that on the recording Mr Trump and Mr Cohen discuss paying Karen McDougal, who says she had an affair with Mr Trump.

The tape was reportedly made two months before the election.

The Department of Justice is looking into alleged hush money paid to women who claim they had a relationship with Mr Trump.

Mr Cohen, who has not been charged, is reportedly under investigation for possible bank and tax fraud, as well as potential violation of election law.

His lawyer Lanny J Davis said in a brief statement on Friday that he was "sensitive" to the ongoing investigation but added: "Suffice it to say that when the recording is heard, it will not hurt Mr Cohen. Any attempt at spin cannot change what is on the tape."

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More Trump smoke and mirrors coming .....

So a man accused of 'playing away' denied that fact? who wouldn't? remember Clinton anybody?

This is yet another 'dead cat' story thrown on the table when the political going was getting tough ....

Whatever you think of Trump he plays the media like a virtuoso .... if the media focused on what's good for the USA, rather than who's dick went where, and who sucks Russian cock best ... then just perhaps they might become relevant ....

When the population is 'informed' by late night comedy, and right wing mouthpieces, then you know you're Country is truly ****ed .....
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Trump is cracking on with delivering on his promises to put the people first, has this been in the MSM ?

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Not standing up for him but many people pay off legal cases.

It is usually a hell of a lot cheaper and less time consuming than hiring lawyers who ain't cheap here in the States (how do you think they can afford those offices in Suits ?)

:lol:

Plus having to do depositions, go to court, get postponed, ask for delays all in the hope the person gives up.

Settle.

Loads of cases are settled.
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I think Trump's problem isn't the case as such, more that the payoff may well be counted as undeclared election spending which is apparently a biggie in Americashire.
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