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MP in the room says PM has twice now told them she won't take the party into the next election
Brexit referendum result aftermath
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Re: Brexit referendum result aftermath
May tells the 1922 Committee she won't lead them into the next election
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Re: Brexit referendum result aftermath
May tells the 1922 Committee (of backbench Tory MPs) that she won’t fight the next election. A desperate gambit.
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Re: Brexit referendum result aftermath
She was almost certainly never going to anyway. Only thing that could have changed that was a brexit deal that worked. If she pulls that off (which she still could) they will be begging her to run again. She hasn't lost much, except having to put up with Corbyn trotting out the lame duck line every time he speaks.
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Re: Brexit referendum result aftermath
A bit like Corbyn saying Abbott was resigning as Shadow Home secretary due to illness!!!!!!York Ham(mer) wrote:May tells the 1922 Committee (of backbench Tory MPs) that she won’t fight the next election. A desperate gambit.
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Ironic how the Conservatives are having a vote 2 years after the last vote. Where’s the democracy?!
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I think some would, but the most would rather the question was asked about what happens next.SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: Sorry to go back a few pages (I was out last night getting mugged by Simon Callow), are you saying remain prefer no deal over a deal?
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Re: Brexit referendum result aftermath
Another pointless exercise.
Any May victory is phyrrhic.
If she wins then manages to get her deal through, the DUP pull the plug and it's general election time.
If she loses then her deal dies (thank God) no deal becomes a reality, parliament block this and it's general election or 2nd referendum time.
Either way, she loses long term.
Any May victory is phyrrhic.
If she wins then manages to get her deal through, the DUP pull the plug and it's general election time.
If she loses then her deal dies (thank God) no deal becomes a reality, parliament block this and it's general election or 2nd referendum time.
Either way, she loses long term.
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I think that there are many differing opinions as there are many reasons for people voting how they did.SammyLeeWasOffside wrote: Sorry to go back a few pages (I was out last night getting mugged by Simon Callow), are you saying remain prefer no deal over a deal?
The question was binary, but the reason for how people voted isn't.
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Re: Brexit referendum result aftermath
That's the sideshow over with, then.Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote:May wins 200-117
Back to the shitshow.
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Re: Brexit referendum result aftermath
Majority of 83.
Not fighting the next election.
Propped up by the DUP.
Cancelled the vote on her deal.
Is this the 'strong and stable' she campaigned on?
Not fighting the next election.
Propped up by the DUP.
Cancelled the vote on her deal.
Is this the 'strong and stable' she campaigned on?
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Re: Brexit referendum result aftermath
Put up or shut up now from the back benches. Like remaining in the EU, they lost. Move on and get behind your leader. All they're doing is making this Brexit mess much worse than it already is. They should hang their heads.
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Re: Brexit referendum result aftermath
At the moment the Tory party looks like someone took the membership of UKIP and New Labour, put them into a blender and expected the resulting liquid to produce a good tasting cocktail.
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Re: Brexit referendum result aftermath
Failed coups, one resignation after another, one mutiny after another, barely 60% of their party's support...and Corbyn's still there.
Perhaps May is undergoing the same process - just the Tory version? I like the pair of them far more than I ever did their predecessors. They have resilience. Character.
Two old fashioned Labour and Tory politicians from the days before the rent-a-clone Oxford PPE grads.
Perhaps May is undergoing the same process - just the Tory version? I like the pair of them far more than I ever did their predecessors. They have resilience. Character.
Two old fashioned Labour and Tory politicians from the days before the rent-a-clone Oxford PPE grads.
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Re: Brexit referendum result aftermath
Maybe, except they put the first vote result into practice and now the second result has ended up with the same result !aaronhammer wrote:Ironic how the Conservatives are having a vote 2 years after the last vote. Where’s the democracy?!
But apart from that entirely Ironic.
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Re: Brexit referendum result aftermath
Her authority has been torn away by winning a 60% majority? how does that work? she increased her share of the vote from 2016 leadership election ... so an increased share of the vote is now a loss of authority?sendô wrote:Ironically enough, no I'm not sure it would really, but doubtless May would stubbornly cling on. Her authority has more or less been completely torn away already without this confidence vote yet she not only continues but her MPs seem to be backing her, so who knows.
Didn't Corbyn win the Labour vote in 2016 with 61% .. was his authority 'torn away'
Do you even understand what winning a vote means? oh wait you're anti-Brexit so no of course you don't ..... democracy only applies when your side wins, isn't that how it works?
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Re: Brexit referendum result aftermath
It really is possible to have a debate without insulting people.