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by Finishing Hammer on Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:40 am
The Moth wrote:Christ you talk some s***e.
"If you think this is a wankfest wait until Sears scores a hattrick against Cardiff !!!" "Good old Sam, gets us playing some good stuff through preseason and has the likes of TPP talking about how he's going to dispell the hoofball tag... and he goes and signs Carew!" "I do like big black players but I also feel we need a speedy mixed raced fullback becuase they seem to be the best at it." Glass houses ...
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by The Moth on Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:47 am
If youre going to trawl through my posts to argue a point you do really need to get out more!! Anyway lets leave it at that and you can keep worrying about cardiffs long ball tactics 
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by joyful on Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:56 am
quote of the day in sam's email
"cardiff will feel very happy and we are sad"
wins statement of the bleedin' obvious (the sobo's) award
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by Yea Why Not on Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:58 am
rare as rockinghorse shat wrote: Our defence looked good, all 5 were solid. .
Really? From where I was sitting it looked like Ilunga got mugged then Green let one slip through his fingers Throughout the rest of the game they were decent but it takes on stupid mistake to **** up 90 minutes of decent work Our midfield need to support the striker more. If they don't then 4-5-1 should not be played as it just wont work Kinda glad I haven't got a season ticket this year. First game and the atmosphere was terrible
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by BubbleBoy on Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:58 am
rare as rockinghorse shat wrote:We were comfortable throughout the match.
Onwards to the next match.
Oh please do stop talking absolute sense you mug  We're going down when we should be winning every game in this league, Allardyce needs to go now! And we need to clone 10 Scott Parkers. The time to set our underpants on fire and run around screaming is NOW.
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by rare as rockinghorse shat on Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:05 pm
YWN
You know, it is possible to be completely comfortable, but make the odd mistake. Mistakes can be separate from what a performance was like overall.
"Our defence looked good, all 5 were solid."
"We were comfortable throughout, barring 2 stupid mistakes"
Did you not read that bit?
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by ToiletDuck on Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:13 pm
looked better organised than at any point last year few frailitys which no doubt will be worked on need a fox in the box or even a stoat on the float up front
result sucked rectum like a rancid beast
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by Rt Hon Tomas Repka on Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:15 pm
Finishing Hammer wrote:"I do like big black players but I also feel we need a speedy mixed raced fullback becuase they seem to be the best at it." .
Did Moth really write that? Quality 
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by Finishing Hammer on Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:16 pm
The Moth wrote:If youre going to trawl through my posts to argue a point you do really need to get out more!!
And the predictable final personal insult ...
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by Matt of iron on Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:17 pm
BubbleBoy wrote: Oh please do stop talking absolute sense you mug We're going down when we should be winning every game in this league, Allardyce needs to go now! And we need to clone 10 Scott Parkers. The time to set our underpants on fire and run around screaming is NOW.
Underpants on fire!? 
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by PrinceH on Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:22 pm
Yes, Ilunga did a hugh mistake (and Green a smaller one), but played solid throughout the rest of the game. If a stupid mistake that leads to a goal (few of the mistakes in 90 min do) should end a career in a club, we could this weekend see Arsenal buy a new keeper (instead of de Goa), Manchester City buy a new captain and CB (instead of Kompany) and Bayern Munchen put the worlds best keeper (Neuer) out for sale. Give up! It's seldom about one man when building a team. If Ilunga are coming back from a long abscence and can find his form again he will be an asset for the team. He has done blunders before, but can't remember big ones like this. Noone said Noble should be sold when he did one, dribbling last in his own area, last term, or Tomkins to be sold when he slipped up a number of times. It's about minimize those, and that is up to Sam. I would not mind to see Jordan Brown as LB as soon as he has recoverd though. Afraid he can do a mistake or two too though. Right now the LB-spot lacks competition, and it should have, if or if not Ilunga plays. Matt Taylor is to good to go forward to be put as a LB (of we do not change system).
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by Yea Why Not on Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:42 pm
rare as rockinghorse shat wrote:Did you not read that bit?
No I didn't 
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by DrVenk on Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:11 pm
Sears is not a right-winger, and I hope BFS won't persist with him there. I'd bring him back in as one of two strikers when we are on a decent run.
Parker - Noble - Nolan.....this doesn't work for me. Replace Parker or Noble with Collison, and we'll have a bit more attacking flair through the middle. I hope Parker goes soon so we can get a settled midfield.
Reid looked solid yesterday which was a relief, and I thought Illunga looked more interested than last season with some decent overlapping runs.
Taylor and O'Brien already look like quality signings.
Shame about the result, but there were plenty of positive signs.
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by HammerMan2004 on Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:15 pm
I would imagine had Faubert been fit, he'd have played on the right wing yesterday instead of Sears.
I wonder if Sam wants to hold off on Barrera until his English gets better or we sell him, whichever comes first....
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by Parso on Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:29 pm
I think it's all been said on here post game. But I'm going to add my 2 pence.
Sear was poor and often went missing. The link up play between Piq and Midfield was just not there, huge gaps at times. Nolan, Parker, Noble will gel or at least Noble and Nolan will, but on this occassion, you could tell it was the first game to together, Nolan was too deep for me. Back Four were good, especially Reid, and I felt sorry for Ilunga because I thought be player well throughout. Taylor was excellent. I think if Berrea had started he would have given us a little more than Sears did. Overall 6.5 out of 10.
What fraustrated me was, although well organised, I don't think Cardiff are a good side. They worked hard but have very little quality. There keeper played well though and the No.15 (name?) that came on looked good.
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by Cuenca 'ammer on Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:34 pm
Shirley if we play 4-5-1 and the pre requisite of the front man is to hold the ball up, which with our immobile midfield could be 5-10 seconds, shouldn't the ball be played to feet rather than to his head ???????? 
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by DrVenk on Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:44 pm
HammerMan2004 wrote:I would imagine had Faubert been fit, he'd have played on the right wing yesterday instead of Sears.
I wonder if Sam wants to hold off on Barrera until his English gets better or we sell him, whichever comes first....
Exactly my thoughts about Barrera. He clearly has more quality than anyone else we have in the RW position, but his confidence needs building.
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by Hockley Hammer on Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:46 pm
I'm glad to see a bit more support for Ilunga on here today.
There is no doubt he made an error, but there was still a bit of work to do for Cardiff to score and with better covering the goal shouldn't have happened. I hope Illunga is told to kick the ball as far away from our end as possible next time or even out the ground rather than look to play a pass in that situation. I bet if he'd have done that and no goal had been scored people would still have moaned at him hoofing it away...fine margins in football.
Also if the same thing had happened at the other end and Sears broke away do you think there would have been the same result? - I don't think so. We got undone by a mistake and a decent finish from an experienced player. At the other end the cross would not have been pulled back but floated across for an easy catch for the keeper, or our player would snatch at the shot rather than take the touch that Miller took.
There were a lot of positives, but I hope Sam is telling the players a few home truths today. We are where we are because of moments like at the end of the game yesterday, and until we stop doing things like that and not taking our chances nothing is going to change. They don't need an encouraging word and an arm around them they need to man up and start showing their ability and do what they are paid to do.
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by Chuck D on Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:46 pm
Cuenca 'ammer wrote:Shirley if we play 4-5-1 and the pre requisite of the front man is to hold the ball up, which with our immobile midfield could be 5-10 seconds, shouldn't the ball be played to feet rather than to his head ???????? 
This 5-10 seconds, is it reaction time, or time to get up with play? Either way, its not good enough.
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