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Only following the managers instructions to not show for the ball, not pass it to a team mate and certainly don't try to control it.RM6 wrote:But what the f*ck does he know he's only professional with 10 years experience and a couple of hundred games to draw his conclusions from.
Just before the own goal Karama was waxing lyrical about the time we were taking on the ball and the number of touches. It was a very good point.Sloop John B wrote: Only following the managers instructions to not show for the ball, not pass it to a team mate and certainly don't try to control it.
This manager really does stick his head in the sand and refuse to accept what's blatantly obvious.
I think this says everything i need to know again....RM6 wrote:
Behave, we'd been ok. Hull aren't as sh*t as people think.
Posted before we scored. Every match report I've read had us well on top before the sending off.Romford wrote: I think this says everything i need to know again....
We had started the game really brightly. Crowd was bouncing.RM6 wrote:
Posted before we scored. Every match report I've read had us well on top before the sending off.
You could easily say the same about many of our teams and I would imagine that many of the teams that we turned over last year were making similarly disparging remarks about the likes of Noble, Vaz Te, Demel, McCartney, Jussi, Cole et al.Billydinho wrote:Why are people going on this "Hull aren't that bad" line?
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But you're all right, Hull are a great side. That's why they dominated us with ten men.
So you mean to say you actually get a better view and can give a better opinion if you are actually there ??RM6 wrote:
Posted before we scored. Every match report I've read had us well on top before the sending off.
Yet I wasn't there and managed to form the same opinion as most of the Journos in the country.Romford wrote: So you mean to say you actually get a better view and can give a better opinion if you are actually there ??
I rest my case...
Noble's performances have been brilliant and I'm the last person to don claret and blue specs. The way he has shielded the back 4 has been nothing short of incredible. He is a deep-lying playmaker in the Pirlo mould (before you jump down my throat I'm not in any way comparing their abilities, but the jobs that they do). You do not need pace for this position, you just need to keep things ticking over, which he does very well. It isn't up to him to "open things up". That is supposed to be the job of our most advanced midfielder, Nolan, and the wingers. It's not true because you arrogantly state it, that isn't how truth works.Ironwerx wrote:I love Noble, He epitomises West Ham for me.
But he is slow, often clumsy and rarely demonstrates an ability to open anything up.
He works hard.
At the risk of getting drowned for being a witch, I'd venture he's a slightly better Taylor, and by better I mean he's our product and gets preferential treatment because of that fact.
But our midfield is sorely lacking in pace, bite and creative guile, and the ineptitude of our attack, and our back to front playing style, is partly because our midfield is below par and inconsistent - if that was addressed Noble would probably need looking at too. Only saying it cos it's true.
After reading so much dross from Journos and have actually been put in harms way because of the lies they have wrote....your view doesn't surprise me. They also have a higher regard for themselves than they deserve.RM6 wrote: Yet I wasn't there and managed to form the same opinion as most of the Journos in the country.
It was even worse v the Mancs...yet he still played the same teamBrian Fantana wrote:The thing that was highlighted for me against Hull was our lack of movement, football is a simple game, pass and move, I see time and time again our players pass the ball and just stand there, no one is making a run into space to receive the ball back. So static it is mind blowing.
This is a basic football principle that these players seem incapable of being able to perform.
We are by far the worst passing team i have ever witnessed at this level and not one player ever looks comfortable in possession.
I do wonder exactly what Sam has them do in training.
What did he say?Kialos wrote:I thought George Parris summed it up quite succinctly at half time.
Brian Fantana wrote:The thing that was highlighted for me against Hull was our lack of movement, football is a simple game, pass and move, I see time and time again our players pass the ball and just stand there, no one is making a run into space to receive the ball back. So static it is mind blowing.
This is a basic football principle that these players seem incapable of being able to perform.
We are by far the worst passing team i have ever witnessed at this level and not one player ever looks comfortable in possession.
I do wonder exactly what Sam has them do in training.
Totally agree and yet another season where Nobles performances start to fade towards the end of the season as we're literally expecting him to run the entire show EVERY week.Scratchy wrote:Noble's performances have been brilliant and I'm the last person to don claret and blue specs. The way he has shielded the back 4 has been nothing short of incredible. He is a deep-lying playmaker in the Pirlo mould (before you jump down my throat I'm not in any way comparing their abilities, but the jobs that they do). You do not need pace for this position, you just need to keep things ticking over, which he does very well. It isn't up to him to "open things up". That is supposed to be the job of our most advanced midfielder, Nolan, and the wingers. It's not true because you arrogantly state it, that isn't how truth works.
We used to have a player like that who didn't give the ball away.Sloop John B wrote:Totally agree and yet another season where Nobles performances start to fade towards the end of the season as we're literally expecting him to run the entire show EVERY week.
He's a great player and I think he's found his niche as a deep lying playmaker.
Diame is the only player we have who can beat a player and move into space in the middle of the park, problem is he's as likely to give it away then keep it. He's the one that needs upgrading. Noble is fine with me!!
