Swansea 1-1 West Ham Utd (10/01/15)

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Why do people keep saying that no one was marking Gomis? Nolan was, just backed off too deep and got out jumped.

Collins may well have done better but wrong to say no one was marking
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Of course I know AC's nothing like Bergkamp :lol:

I was just pointing out that this particular goal, the control on chest and head, followed by quick feet to make space and an excellent shot, reminded me of him.
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hammer1975 wrote:Why do people keep saying that no one was marking Gomis? Nolan was, just backed off too deep and got out jumped.

Collins may well have done better but wrong to say no one was marking
You, sir, clearly have an anti-Nolan agenda.
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Billydinho wrote:You, sir, clearly have an anti-Nolan agenda.
He may have, but on this occassion, he's right. I mentioned it on the previous page. Nolan dropped off Gomis and allowed him a free run in. He didn't even jump to try and put him off. And then he looked around pointing, as if to blame someone else


Go and watch a replay and you'll see. Noble still should have stopped it on the line anyway.
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hammer1975 wrote:Why do people keep saying that no one was marking Gomis? Nolan was, just backed off too deep and got out jumped.

Collins may well have done better but wrong to say no one was marking

It was Reid.
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Billydinho wrote:
Jesus, let's not get carried away gents. Good goal but not likely to be making any DVDs.
Absolutely disagree. Even accounting for the defending, Carroll was facing the wrong way, and the speed of his footwork and finish were terrific. If Messi has scored that we'd all be saying "Ah but that's Messi - that's what he does". But this is a 6 foot 4 inch striker who some on here think is a carthorse - it's amazing considering his size. On MoTD Danny Murphy remarked on the surprising speed of his footwork
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I thought it was the kind of goal that Van Persie would score, and if he had we'd be hearing about it forever. Big Andy reminds me of Bambi on Ice at times, but you have to give him credit for that piece of skill. I also respect him for his running back and defensive work.
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I thought at the time where are the centre halves. We still had two on the pitch.
Gomis was their main striker. Surely one of them should have been covering his run.
Nolan just covers that area as he normally does.Gomis had the advantage of a free run at the ball.
Just like the Chelsea goal we defended poorly as a unit.
Same as Everton last Tuesday.
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I thought at the time where are the centre halves. We still had two on the pitch.
Gomis was their main striker. Surely one of them should have been covering his run.
Nolan just covers that area as he normally does.Gomis had the advantage of a free run at the ball.
Just like the Chelsea goal we defended poorly as a unit.
Same as Everton last Tuesday.
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It was Nolan but you have to question why it was him marking Gomis.
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Hockley Hammer wrote:I thought at the time where are the centre halves. We still had two on the pitch.
Gomis was their main striker. Surely one of them should have been covering his run.
Nolan just covers that area as he normally does.Gomis had the advantage of a free run at the ball.
Just like the Chelsea goal we defended poorly as a unit.
Same as Everton last Tuesday.
Lets be honest, if Nolan, or JoB, or Reid, or whoever isn't popular at the moment had made as much of a meal of it as Noble did on his post then we wouldn't have heard the end of it. None of them were born in Canning Town though
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I don't see anyone at all marking hime there. I might be being a bit harsh, but I'm not sure why Carroll didn't make an attempt to head the ball away. At the very least an attempt would have made it harder for the striker. Instead he ends up looking uncertain and backing off presumably in the hope of blocking on the line if need be. Excellent corner though.
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DaveWHU1964 wrote:I don't see anyone at all marking hime there. I might be being a bit harsh, but I'm not sure why Carroll didn't make an attempt to head the ball away. At the very least an attempt would have made it harder for the striker. Instead he ends up looking uncertain and backing off presumably in the hope of blocking on the line if need be. Excellent corner though.
Fine margins, but Nobes guarding that post, really should have kept it out. Gomis's header actually hit the post and the ball rebounded onto Nobes's leg and somehow it squeezed in
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Hockley Hammer wrote:I think the reason Sam is happy to protect a goal lead is simply that more often than not that may be enough to win the game.
If only it was the case that we saw games out. Since coming back up again we've had 20 one goal leads, 10 of which we've held onto. The other 10 we've been pegged back to 8 draws & 2 defeats, 6 of these in the last 15 minutes of games. We've also lost four from drawing positions in the last 15 minutes of games alone.

The only times in the last two & a half seasons where we've scored in the last 15 minutes to change the outcome of a game have been Sunderland & Chelsea at home two years ago & Spurs away in the League Cup last season.
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Puff Daddy wrote:Fine margins, but Nobes guarding that post, really should have kept it out. Gomis's header actually hit the post and the ball rebounded onto Nobes's leg and somehow it squeezed in
Fine margins indeed Puff. I know Nobes is getting a bit of stick but it was a fine, strong header. I know it was his job to protect that post but it isn't as easy as that. Like I said before I'm probably being too harsh on AC. It was a terrific corner that I think probably caught AC in two minds.

All in all it wasn't dissimilar to AC's second against Swansea last month. Like then a good header of a ball was pretty much given a free run to attack a good delivery..
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hammer1975 wrote:Why do people keep saying that no one was marking Gomis? Nolan was, just backed off too deep and got out jumped.

Collins may well have done better but wrong to say no one was marking
No anti nolan agenda there , he's correct
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DaveWHU1964 wrote:Fine margins indeed Puff. I know Nobes is getting a bit of stick but it was a fine, strong header. I know it was his job to protect that post but it isn't as easy as that. Like I said before I'm probably being too harsh on AC. It was a terrific corner that I think probably caught AC in two minds.
It looked to me that he got caught out a bit by the bounce / rebound, and instinctively tried to make sure he didn't handle on the line above anything else.

A red card and a penalty would have been far worse.
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carnage wrote: It was Nolan but you have to question why it was him marking Gomis.
The crucial part of the mistake is not shown on that clip .
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Carroll's goal was top drawer, no doubt about it.

I was pretty gobsmacked tbf because I didn't think he had those type of goals in his locker.

If he scores a few more like that he'll be back in my good books before you can say "howay the f**king lads like man"
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