West Ham Utd 1-1 Everton (07/11/16)

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West Ham Utd 1-1 Everton (07/11/16)

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Lets get back to winning ways against the toffees

15:00 kick off

2-1 to us

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I hate playing this lot. Every game seems to go the same.

Play them off the park, lose 3-1. Leave ground wondering how that happened.
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I'm mortgaging my house to Ladbrokes to pay for a life changing bet on Lukaku to score any time, but especially between 85 minutes and the end of the game.
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Hopefully from that bilic will have learnt it would have been better playing Valencia instead of Carroll and Reid and ogbonna back as first choice central defence, I'd stick Tomkins at right back over jenkinson and perhaps song over kouyate...reckon it'll be a different side against Everton than today for sure!
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Quite pleased Collins is unavailable.
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Today's defeat is probably reason to give the team a bit of a shake up and refresh. I'd go with Valencia and Sakho as a two up top in a 4-4-2 diamond that worked well up to December last year. Drop Moses and have a midfield four of Lanzini, Payet, Kouyate, Noble with Song getting minutes at the end if he's fit. We've had more or less the same formation for the last 10 games, need to change it up a bit
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We're in a season of pattern breaking. Martinez is his managerial career has largely has the Indian sign over us. Therefore we should win.

Though the Lukaku factor looms large.
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hammers92 wrote:Today's defeat is probably reason to give the team a bit of a shake up and refresh. I'd go with Valencia and Sakho as a two up top in a 4-4-2 diamond that worked well up to December last year. Drop Moses and have a midfield four of Lanzini, Payet, Kouyate, Noble with Song getting minutes at the end if he's fit. We've had more or less the same formation for the last 10 games, need to change it up a bit
I reckon we'd get murdered.

One of Payet, Lanzini and Noble needs to be dropped. It won't be Payet.
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Is Lukaku to score against us at any time the closest thing to a certain bet there is?
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kenthammer1984 wrote:Is Lukaku to score against us at any time the closest thing to a certain bet there is?
It used to be Kevin Davies but yes, I would say so
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-------------Adrian
Jenks Reid Ogbonna Cresswell
--------Noble Kouyate -----------
----Lanzini Payet Valencia------
--------------Sakho----------------

Randolph, Tomkins, O'Brien, Obiang, Moses, Zarate, Carroll

Tomkins has played himself out of a starting spot unfortunately.
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kalashnikov wrote:-------------Adrian
Jenks Reid Ogbonna Cresswell
--------Noble Kouyate -----------
----Lanzini Payet Valencia------
--------------Sakho----------------

Randolph, Tomkins, O'Brien, Obiang, Moses, Zarate, Carroll

Tomkins has played himself out of a starting spot unfortunately.
O'Brien instead of Song on the bench??????
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kalashnikov wrote:-------------Adrian
Jenks Reid Ogbonna Cresswell
--------Noble Kouyate -----------
----Lanzini Payet Valencia------
--------------Sakho----------------

Randolph, Tomkins, O'Brien, Obiang, Moses, Zarate, Carroll

Tomkins has played himself out of a starting spot unfortunately.


Tomkins has played himself out of a starting spot?? Christ I'm glad you are not my manager. He has been excellent all season and I have read glowing report after glowing report about him. He drops one yesterday and has an overall poor game but who had a decent game? He will still start for me with hopefully Reid available to play along side him.
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Aycliffe wrote:Tomkins has played himself out of a starting spot?? Christ I'm glad you are not my manager. He has been excellent all season and I have read glowing report after glowing report about him. He drops one yesterday and has an overall poor game but who had a decent game? He will still start for me with hopefully Reid available to play along side him.
Harsh maybe, but we are at the level where we have the strength in depth to bring in a viable alternative plus instil that performances like yesterday will not be tolerated.
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The teams that have done well against us this season are those that simply run around a lot .
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the pink palermo wrote:The teams that have done well against us this season are those that simply run around a lot .
And Everton prefer the posession based approach, waiting and picking out a chance instead of being more dynamic with the ball. Genuinely think we can get the points in this one, we have the pace to stretch them on the counter. It's the games against teams where we're expected to directly attack is our problem
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Tolerating bad performance is of course never an option, but there are some issues with wholesale changes, in the face of 90 poor minutes. Somebody, somewhere, after all, was going to end our brilliant (uncharacteristic?!) away record.

One of the main differences yesterday was no Sakho. The team has a different focal point without him. He repeatedly causes headaches for an opponent's defence and players are wary of him. He is difficult to replace; there is in fact no like for like swap in our otherwise reasonably well-stocked squad. He has honed this art and it has been quietly very effective, even if he hasn't repeated his goal-scoring feats of last term.

Maybe what the others did was to struggle to adapt to having AC in the same part of the pitch. He is so different from Sakho that it is after all a shake up.

The problem going forward, if Sakho is out for Everton, is that it appears that the best way of bringing AC into the game is to have overlapping FB's who can put the ball on his bonce for his trademark unstoppable headers. This exposes them high up the pitch, in adventurous moments, so their partners out wide need to demonstrate defensive solidity.

I am very keen on Lanzini and Payet, but tracking back defensive partners they aint.

This leaves me, in something of a roundabout way, proposing that we are wasting our time trying to bang the Big Yin into a round hole. Might he in fact prove more valuable playing in a manner similar to Fellaini (minus the elbows) - i.e. as the central focus of an attack to nod/chest into play a nippier player, who can accurately shoot from range? Both Zarate and Valencia fit that bill.

Proposed team

-------------------------------------Adrian

Jenks - Tomkins - Ogbonna (or Reid, whoever is sharper) - Cresswell

Moses --- Noble --- Obiang --- Lanzini

--------------------Carroll

--------------------------------Zarate
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Consecutive defeats and back to normal. :|
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--------------------------Adrian
Jenkinson---Tomkins(c)----Ogbonna-----Cresswell
----------------Kouyate-------Obiang
---Moses-------------Payet------------Lanzini
------------------------Sakho

Subs: Randolph: O'Brien: Reid: Noble : Zarate: Carroll: Valencia
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Re: West ham vs Everton 7th November

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We looked like a team that had never played together yesterday.

Everton are flying.

They are going to destroy us next week :(
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