EFLCQF: Manchester Utd 4-1 West Ham Ut d (30/11/16)

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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby europeanscum on Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:44 pm

ageing hammer wrote:
How did he escape a yellow after fouling Kouyate first half and then kicked the ball at him in a rage of anger.

He then picks up a yellow in the second half for dissent ( which would have meant a second yellow and sending off ) and spends the rest of the match shouting and moaning every time he came near the ref.

How does he get away with it.


In fairness, Rooneys rolling of the ball into Kouyates face didn't get much of a reaction from the latter. The replay showed Kouyate could've easily picked up a card there too, he had a little kick out at Rooney as he went down.

Another player in either of their positions could've rolled around feigning injury.
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby HighWycombeHammer on Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:45 pm

Well we have double the amount of season ticket holders now...why do they not seem bothered about seeing such games ?

I know we haven't been treated well ...nothing new there though....but the current level of away support isn't as big as most expected.[/quote]

We may have double the season tickets but those extra people were still there and could of always gone away if they wanted. Still the same usual faces when you go away and most of them are 40+. Kids coming through are not as passionate as most of us were at that age and will fall away when we go through a bad patch.
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby AntiHero on Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:03 pm

RE Antonio: Defensive liability at times yes, but we still conceded two goals when he wasn't on the pitch, in a shorter space of time. Man u's second down the left as well - just for some balance.
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby NottinghamTom on Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:27 pm

HighWycombeHammer wrote:Well we have double the amount of season ticket holders now...why do they not seem bothered about seeing such games ?

I know we haven't been treated well ...nothing new there though....but the current level of away support isn't as big as most expected.


We may have double the season tickets but those extra people were still there and could of always gone away if they wanted. Still the same usual faces when you go away and most of them are 40+. Kids coming through are not as passionate as most of us were at that age and will fall away when we go through a bad patch.[/quote]

This is harsh in my eyes.

I feel there's a lot of young kids, way younger than myself who are probably more passionate that myself, who go home and away and I think once you get that addiction I don't think it matters how rubbish what's on the pitch is you just get in the habit of going.

I know this is the most disinterested I've ever felt towards West Ham, still got my away sT, still go everygame, will continue to for a long time I hope, having double the number of season tickets is half the issue most people are losing interest cos they despise going to the soulless bowl, if you're paying £500+ a year to sit in that ****hole you're gonna find it hard to motivate yourself to spend £100+ a time to go to away games.
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby Welsh Iron on Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:37 pm

Despite the result, the cold and the way we played, we had a good trip up to Manchester.

Had a few beers in Didsbury prior to the game and jumped on a tram to OT.

Kind of knew it was going to be a long night when we saw the teamsheet, so just decided to try and enjoy the game. No chance of that, though, what with our woeful defending and lack of effort all round. It was a Cup 1/4 final FFS and our Captain is left on the bench. What was that all about? Too many of them just going through the motions and when they took the lead we were beat. Twice in the 2nd half we were in attacking positions and the ball found it's way back to Adrian.

Payet didn't look interested either. The way he ambled off when subbed spoke volumes. He has obviously had enough of trying to drag the rest of them around and he'll be off in Jan. Who can blame him when he's surrounded by such dross?

I'm still laughing at Zaza's 'shot' but the way he rushed to swap shirts with Zlatan at the end was embarrassing for him, to say the least.

As usual, our fans were a credit to the Club. It's just a shame the Club don't acknowledge/appreciate it.

Burnley & Hull are both 'must win' games now, or we'll be deep in the relegation zone by Christmas. I'm writing off Le Arse and Liverpool games.
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby AntiHero on Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:45 pm

Oh and on the topic of away games. When you're younger, generally money is scarce. I don't even come close to being able to afford an away ST/travel etc. I'm as passionate as the next and I'm sure many others are, but, circumstances and all that
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby Romford on Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:27 pm

HighWycombeHammer wrote:
We may have double the season tickets but those extra people were still there and could of always gone away if they wanted. Still the same usual faces when you go away and most of them are 40+. Kids coming through are not as passionate as most of us were at that age and will fall away when we go through a bad patch.


I actually think our away supports age has gone down in the past few years...and are a fresh breath to all us old growlers

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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby RichieRiv on Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:41 pm

I think it depends on the game. Norwich last season I felt young.
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby HighWycombeHammer on Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:46 pm

AntiHero wrote:Oh and on the topic of away games. When you're younger, generally money is scarce. I don't even come close to being able to afford an away ST/travel etc. I'm as passionate as the next and I'm sure many others are, but, circumstances and all that


Maybe passionate was the wrong word but I do find the youngsters have more than one piece of fun now (good luck to them) compared to when we were that age so they spread there money over a number of things.
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby Romford on Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:50 pm

RichieRiv wrote:I think it depends on the game. Norwich last season I felt young.


Go back a couple of seasons and EVERY match you were young :wink:
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby RichieRiv on Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:54 pm

Now that's what I call wisdom!

I have to admit though, it's the first time I'd ever noticed the age group of our away support. Maybe because Norj is an easy non London away day.
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby Romford on Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:55 pm

RichieRiv wrote:Now that's what I call wisdom!

I have to admit though, it's the first time I'd ever noticed the age group of our away support. Maybe because Norj is an easy non London away day.


Or everyone wanted to have a light ale with a certain Norwich based fan :thup:
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby carnage on Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:07 pm

Rays Rock wrote:Probably because he's one of he very few players that look like they actually give a **** this season and puts in a proper shift. Plenty of players have made very decent careers with a whole lot less than that.
That really shouldn't be beyond anyone



He has got his head on the end of a few crosses, other than that he is a liability and at times an embarrassment.

Out of his depth. A headless Marlon Harewood.
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby Doc H Ball on Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:54 pm

I'm another who thinks our away crew are getting a bit younger.

Games like Bournemouth, Bristol City etc and the official average age is 73. Bit of a closed shop of bond holders, away s/t, a few corporate and heavy pointers.

The more tickets, the younger the average.

If I ran this Club, the very first thing I'd do would be to run specials and encourage a Purge of the old guard.

I hated hearing them sing 'couldn't sell all your tickets' last night even although we took about 5,000 (is that right?), there were no trains home, it was midweek, we'd played there a few days before, it's the lesser cup, we're **** and the M6 is like playing Kerplunk. Those 2 empty blocks could've been filled had the Club helped.
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby sanchoz on Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:11 pm

Doc H Ball wrote:
I hated hearing them sing 'couldn't sell all your tickets' last night even although we took about 5,000 (is that right?), there were no trains home, it was midweek, we'd played there a few days before, it's the lesser cup, we're **** and the M6 is like playing Kerplunk. Those 2 empty blocks could've been filled had the Club helped.


£38 for STH, £46 for non STH. Also they could hardly chant that when you looked at the top upper corners and the empties up there.

One thing I will say about Tottenham and Chelsea is that they look after their away support travel wise with the subsidised specials they put on (along with Stoke, Swansea and Man City)
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby irongav on Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:13 pm

Doc H Ball wrote:I'm another who thinks our away crew are getting a bit younger.

Games like Bournemouth, Bristol City etc and the official average age is 73. Bit of a closed shop of bond holders, away s/t, a few corporate and heavy pointers.

The more tickets, the younger the average.

If I ran this Club, the very first thing I'd do would be to run specials and encourage a Purge of the old guard.

I hated hearing them sing 'couldn't sell all your tickets' last night even although we took about 5,000 (is that right?), there were no trains home, it was midweek, we'd played there a few days before, it's the lesser cup, we're **** and the M6 is like playing Kerplunk. Those 2 empty blocks could've been filled had the Club helped.


make you right [albeit steward i was talking to said 4k] where are all the 55k fans on the waiting list, if i was desperate to see west ham and could not get a home ticket [home.....I mean running track] i would be all over looking for spares to these games? as for the club assisting fans............... :thdn:
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby Doc H Ball on Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:26 pm

irongav wrote:...as for the club assisting fans............... :thdn:


Amongst all the talk about billion pound buyouts, £20m players, naming rights etc etc it's the SMALL things that grate on me most.

Taking minimum allocations, not running trains, heavy handed disrespect for our own, not originally backing ticket price reductions etc etc.

It would be relatively cheap for the owners to encourage away attendances but they see nothing in it for them, (despite the obvious advantages) and this shows them up for what they are more than anything else.
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby Colours never run on Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:37 pm

To be fair, Antonios not bad at scoring so many headed goals for such a 'headless chicken'. Must be just really flukey..
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby Albie Beck on Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:59 pm

the pink palermo wrote:Got flashed by a speed camera on the M1 mind you .

Was that you that set it off? Frightened the life out of me... as I was gently dozing at the wheel :D
- but I though it was on the other side?
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Re: Manchester Utd v West Ham Utd: match thread (EFL Cup)

Postby HammerMan2004 on Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:07 am

The song was "Ashley Fletcher, he's one of your own!" :lol:
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