FAC3: West Ham Utd 0-5 Manchester City (06/01/17)

[gouldie]

Ok , ok I've come back after saying I was done. I really don't know what has to happen, maybe the atmosphere in the stadium can turn round? maybe we can sack slaven and get a new manager? maybe we can sell to a rich Arab or fizzy pop company? I don't have any answers the same as everyone else but, this shambles surely can't carry on. We got lucky for a couple of games and papered over the cracks temporarily but after tonight's showing. There was just no fight, no passion, no desire. It hurts! What can we do? Is there even an answer? All I know is that that was ****ing embarrassing and things have to change.

[SydneyFC]

f*** off dave sulley jnr, go use this match for more retweets and followers you ****.

[Oldammer]

So many people going on about the right back situation but the first three goals, including the pen, came from our left side. We always play tight at the back and allow any team we play far too much room and time on the flanks. We get away with it against 'lesser' teams. The better teams will always exploit it to good effect. City played well and are a different class, but we rolled over, unacceptable. We could have shipped three or four goals against Burnley or Hull and got away with it. You ain't gonna get away with it against 500 millions worth.

[Sir_Trevor]

Snodgrass, Glenn Johnson and Defoe all lined up mate.

The future is bright. :raver:

Is Joe Cole still playing?

Lampard is considering playing again and Ravel Morrison is training with Wigan. (oh and Johnny Spector is still playing RB for Brum).

[sharphammer]

Just because the ball comes down the left hand side it doesn't mean the RB cannot be at fault... Tucking in and tracking runners when the ball is on the opposite flank is a critical part of a defensive duty

[Pob!]

Im so glad I didn't go..
I had a feeling this was coming so I stayed comfortably cosy in the warm with a hot cuppa and some custard creams ...
Its all just a load of old ***** down the misery bowl isn't it?

[Irrons]

It's not one of the more obvious points that needs addressing out of tonight's shambles, but I think I've had my fill of seeing Andy Carroll in a West Ham shirt now.

We only ever play football one way when he plays and we're absolute at doing that. He gives us 10-15 games a season when he might be fit and 1-2 of those he might be unplayable (as per Arsenal last season).

The rest of the time he's a useful asset when we're defending corners, wins a lot of headers on the halfway line where we generally have no idea how to deal with the second ball, and is an absolute full-time hindrance to any type of inventive, incisive attacking football. To the extent where you see more of him berating teammates for not sticking floaty balls up to him as he likes (which he never actually wins) or moaning to referees, than him troubling defenders, let alone goalkeepers, as he's handsomely paid to do.

He's the most expensive carthorse in the premiership. And he's not even that good a carthorse ffs. An option B off the bench is all he should ever be

[WeallwantMoore]

I think Cresswell has been shocking recently and decided to watch him closely especially in the first half as I was sitting as close to his position as possible....in a nutshell I thought he was terrible

Looked scared to commit into a tackle, positioning bad, had loads of room to get forward but was too slow and all in all looked totally disinterested with zero fire in the belly.

Not sure if this is due to lack of confidence from the injury or just not good enough...

[wildkard]

Jesus Christ I've never seen my daughter so angry.

[k-r-c]

Ogbonnas distribution was an absolute joke.

[Devs Hampton]

[quote="Phil S"

I really thought at 3-0 it flattered them we played well upto the pen.

Second half was **** though.[/quote]

Nah, we played well in the area they let us, middle of the pitch. When it mattered, penetrating their box and defending ours we completely hopeless mate

[Claret & Blue World]

I've been saying for several seasons we are not interested in cups. I wish we would just admit it and stick the kids out.

Think you may be confused between 'not Interested' and just 'not good' ?

[Oldammer]

Just because the ball comes down the left hand side it doesn't mean the RB cannot be at fault... Tucking in and tracking runners when the ball is on the opposite flank is a critical part of a defensive duty

Agree, but we get hurt from both sides. I'm just saying the right back situation gets all the attention so the same can be said for both sides. I also think our left back has been poor this season. Stands off too much with his hands behind his back. It's too easy getting balls into our box. Lost count how many times Reid has saved us from a pasting. He was immense tonight and stopped three goals on his own before the pen.

[woodywoody]

I'm afraid on a big pitch like ours you need some runners and if you was to play horses for courses you'd sit back with 2 up front and lump it forward. Carol can not put pressure on defenders and close down fast as well as opposition defenders know he won't be running past them. No I don't want this football but Slav must have an idea what he wants or needs to build his jigsaw and this is what worries me because if you try and play a certain way without the required players it just ain't going to work as seen this year on many occasions. He will never be poor so Either the Daves have him under a spell or he is lost.

[Fishdo]

I was thinking the same ... we looked decent because they let us before the penalty... watching it you could see we were letting them have the midfield and none was closing down players in front of them... even before penalty they strolled into our box at will..,

Slav said before game we was going to press high and after ten minutes we were sitting deep ... if there was a game plan I don't think we followed it by any stretch ...

[Crouchend_Hammer]

That game had nothing to do with not havig a decent RB. We could have had gary neville playING there and still been ****

Creswell needs to pull his finger out, and as for Carroll?? Dear me

[James P]

How about next time we draw Man City in the cup we just forfeit.

[TheHandOfDog]

It just makes me depressed. I enjoy watching football in general and I probably watch a good few games a month but I swear it's only West Ham this season that just goes down without a fight. I wish we had half the attitude that we had last season or better yet, half the attitude of Bournemouth. Their games against Liverpool and Arsenal is something for us to dream about this season. Eddie Howe in please.

[WeallwantMoore]

What doesn't help is zero movement up front...last year we had 2 bombing about pulling defenders everywhere...we played the best stuff ive seen for a long time from a West Ham team.

[Fishdo]

[quote="woodyw] Slav must have an idea what he wants or needs to build his jigsaw and this is what worries me because if you try and play a certain way without the required players it just ain't going to work as seen this year on many occasions. He will never be poor so Either the Daves have him under a spell or he is lost.[/quote]

I think his use of the players we have and thier strengths have not been played to... he certainly deserves a good share of the criticism.... might also explain that loss of confidence generally...