PSF: West Ham Utd 0-3 Manchester City (04/08/17)

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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby belgohammer on Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:45 pm

Georgee Paris wrote:People say we shouldn't expect to compete with these teams. It wasn't that long ago Leicester managed it.

And not with a squad particularly better than the one we've got.
A mix of ambitiously stellar motivational management, the owners backing the supporters the right way and thus the supporters backing the team, other teams weakened that season for some reason, two stellar players (that season), but essentially just ****ing incredible management which led to a fearless mentality. We don't quite have that.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby mumbles87 on Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:47 pm

Georgee Paris wrote:People say we shouldn't expect to compete with these teams. It wasn't that long ago Leicester managed it.


Difference was leicester have the art of defending

we lost it when sam left
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby bubbles1966 on Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:58 pm

We finished above Leicester last year and we were pretty blinding just two years ago.

Slav's biggest issue at the moment is the absence of Kouyate - arguably our best CB, arguably our best combative midfielder, arguably the only CM we have who will score 5 goals a season (pens excluded).
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby Gerblatz on Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:03 pm

A decent workout to clear the pipes and against some of the best players they will come up against this campaign. It can only be a positive exercise, even down to identifying silly mistakes.

It gets real Sunday week...get behind the lads and the manager, it's going to be a decent ride...
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby Kev59 on Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:12 pm

Apart from the difference in class, the other thing that I noticed, was that we approached the game like a friendly. Citeh were all over us from the off, playing like it was a "proper" game.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby belgohammer on Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:26 pm

Kev59 wrote:Apart from the difference in class, the other thing that I noticed, was that we approached the game like a friendly. Citeh were all over us from the off, playing like it was a "proper" game.


Pep mentality. Been like this all through pre season. Even when they're 2 nil up, he won't settle. He still looks stressed out, he still shouts. He doesn't do "friendlies". And this is also why this team is likely to win it this year.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby Jedi Al Khalaas on Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:36 pm

The OS reports an injury depleted side

West Ham United: Hart, Zabaleta (Byram 46), Fonte, Ogbonna, Masuaku, Obiang, Noble (c) (Rice 46), Ayew (Holland 86), Fernandes (Makasi 86), Arnautovic (Snodgrass 62), Martinez (Chicharito 46)
Subs not used: Adrian (GK), Collins


Doesnt look that injury depleted to me!
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby scatts on Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:53 pm

Andy.C wrote:Sorry if I missed it but was Winston suspended ?


Yes.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby Yea Why Not on Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:08 pm

Lol @ the people who couldn't wait to pounce on Hart after the first goal

I have no real opinion on his signing and think it could go either way. Just thought it was funny that people felt the need to jump on him after that goal. If Oggy felt flustered he should have clipped it down the line. Simple as that
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby Sarfend Hammer on Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:09 pm

Jedi Al Khalaas wrote:The OS reports an injury depleted side

West Ham United: Hart, Zabaleta (Byram 46), Fonte, Ogbonna, Masuaku, Obiang, Noble (c) (Rice 46), Ayew (Holland 86), Fernandes (Makasi 86), Arnautovic (Snodgrass 62), Martinez (Chicharito 46)
Subs not used: Adrian (GK), Collins


Doesnt look that injury depleted to me!
Reid, Kouyate, Antonio, Lanzini represents more than a third of our starting 11.( Ignoring Carroll and Sakho because we should.}
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby Yea Why Not on Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:10 pm

Jedi Al Khalaas wrote:The OS reports an injury depleted side

West Ham United: Hart, Zabaleta (Byram 46), Fonte, Ogbonna, Masuaku, Obiang, Noble (c) (Rice 46), Ayew (Holland 86), Fernandes (Makasi 86), Arnautovic (Snodgrass 62), Martinez (Chicharito 46)
Subs not used: Adrian (GK), Collins


Doesnt look that injury depleted to me!


It's missing our spine for next season. Reid, Kouyate, Lanzini and hopefully a decent senior striker in Chico. I'd say that's pretty depleted
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby Oz'ammer on Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:16 pm

Did the 11 players that will likley start next week play?
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby Morocco Mole on Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:30 pm

This lot generally muller us when it matters, let alone a pre-season friendly when they're at virtually full strength and we've got half a side. There's a few in this thread that need to calm down and quite frankly should know better. We are not competing with Manchester City. Now or ever as long as this lot are in charge so accept it.

That said, we've bought four good players (whoopee) but shipped a bunch out and spent basically **** all (imagine that?). We are at least three short: a striker, an attacking mid and a proper DM. They all need to be of first eleven quality. If we don't get them then it's been another 'just do the bare minimum' window from the schnorrers despite the Hernandez hooha. I ain't holding my breath.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby hammerman11 on Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:34 pm

a few injuries and we are very short. as has been said we are competing with the top 6 but we should at least give it a go.
as last season no one could get near yaya. he`s getting slower but still too quick for noble and co.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby bubbles500 on Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:55 pm

And not with a squad particularly better than the one we've got.
A mix of ambitiously stellar motivational management, the owners backing the supporters the right way and thus the supporters backing the team, other teams weakened that season for some reason, two stellar players (that season), but essentially just ****ing incredible management which led to a fearless mentality. We don't quite have that.[/quote]

Leicester won the league because they unearthed the best DM around .No coincidence that Chelsea did same following season.Yet it's a position we chose to ignore and wonder why we keep conceding shed loads of goals.Never actually realised Kante was bought as a winger.Pretty genius that Raineri converted him to a DM.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby DDHammer on Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:01 pm

Kante has played about 150 career games as a CM/DM, when was he a winger?
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby bubbles500 on Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:21 pm

DDHammer wrote:Kante has played about 150 career games as a CM/DM, when was he a winger?


They bought him as a winger,or played him on wing first few games.Saw raineri talking about it.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby Beavis Danzig on Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:24 pm

Georgee Paris wrote:People say we shouldn't expect to compete with these teams. It wasn't that long ago Leicester managed it.


we can compete, but not without our best players in a friendly where no-one wants to push themselves beyond 80%. probably under instruction.

and we were every bit as good as leicester that season.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Manchester City: match thread

Postby DDHammer on Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:22 am

So he basically signed a career DM, tried playing him out of position for a bit before realising he was still a better DM, genius! :D
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