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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
first game season begins now for us.
-Hart-------------------------
Zabaleta--Reid---Ogbonna---Cresswell
Antonio----Carvalho-noble--Kouyate----Arnautovic
-----------------Hernandez------------
subs adrian masuaka obiang martininez fernandez rice ayew
kjouyate to drop into back four if CB need to come off obiang on
-Hart-------------------------
Zabaleta--Reid---Ogbonna---Cresswell
Antonio----Carvalho-noble--Kouyate----Arnautovic
-----------------Hernandez------------
subs adrian masuaka obiang martininez fernandez rice ayew
kjouyate to drop into back four if CB need to come off obiang on
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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
hammerman11 wrote:first game season begins now for us.
-Hart-------------------------
Zabaleta--Reid---Ogbonna---Cresswell
Antonio----Carvalho-noble--Kouyate----Arnautovic
-----------------Hernandez------------
subs adrian masuaka obiang martininez fernandez rice ayew
kjouyate to drop into back four if CB need to come off obiang on
I like that team, with the exception of arguably the most important positions on the field, the centre of our defence. We are under strength there and this must be addressed. Personally, I think we should have looked to upgrade on Reid last summer
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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
hammerman11 wrote:first game season begins now for us.
-Hart-------------------------
Zabaleta--Reid---Ogbonna---Cresswell
Antonio----Carvalho-noble--Kouyate----Arnautovic
-----------------Hernandez------------
subs adrian masuaka obiang martininez fernandez rice ayew
kjouyate to drop into back four if CB need to come off obiang on
I think Hernandez needs players close to him. Its too obvious what were doing when he is isolated like that. I would use a kind of diamond to support him.
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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
So Antonio the only player to return for this game according to Bilic and Carvalho still training with his club today... so I reckon
---------------------------- Hart ------------------------------
---------------- Reid --- Collins --- Ogbonna ------------
Zabaleta ------------------------------------------ Cresswell
------------------- Noble ----- Rice ----------------------
---------- Antonio-------------------- Arnautovic--------
---------------------- Hernandez --------------------------
Although not sure Obiang will be dropped
---------------------------- Hart ------------------------------
---------------- Reid --- Collins --- Ogbonna ------------
Zabaleta ------------------------------------------ Cresswell
------------------- Noble ----- Rice ----------------------
---------- Antonio-------------------- Arnautovic--------
---------------------- Hernandez --------------------------
Although not sure Obiang will be dropped
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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
theres no way Carvalho will start if we sign him.
We're West Ham, for some reason we sign people and don't start them for about 3 weeks
We're West Ham, for some reason we sign people and don't start them for about 3 weeks
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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
Liking that team very muchMD_HM wrote:So Antonio the only player to return for this game according to Bilic and Carvalho still training with his club today... so I reckon
---------------------------- Hart ------------------------------
---------------- Reid --- Collins --- Ogbonna ------------
Zabaleta ------------------------------------------ Cresswell
------------------- Noble ----- Rice ----------------------
---------- Antonio-------------------- Arnautovic--------
---------------------- Hernandez --------------------------
Although not sure Obiang will be dropped
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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
MD_HM wrote:So Antonio the only player to return for this game according to Bilic and Carvalho still training with his club today... so I reckon
---------------------------- Hart ------------------------------
---------------- Reid --- Collins --- Ogbonna ------------
Zabaleta ------------------------------------------ Cresswell
------------------- Noble ----- Rice ----------------------
---------- Antonio-------------------- Arnautovic--------
---------------------- Hernandez --------------------------
Although not sure Obiang will be dropped
I would play Fonte instead of Ginger Pele. He would want to show up for this one.
Also Pedro instead of either Nobes or Rice.
If Arnie doesn't back track we may get caned on the left hand side of the park.
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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
The departure of the uber-dross is revealing the merely-dross judging by some of these selections.
Our central midfield would struggle in the championship in the absence of Lanzini and Kouyate.
Our central midfield would struggle in the championship in the absence of Lanzini and Kouyate.
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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
Hart
Zab Reid Oggy Cress
Noble Obiang
Antonio Ayew Arnie
Chich
Ayew and Obiang need to turn up this week - if not hook them with Rice and Sakho. Based on only Antonio returning.
Zab Reid Oggy Cress
Noble Obiang
Antonio Ayew Arnie
Chich
Ayew and Obiang need to turn up this week - if not hook them with Rice and Sakho. Based on only Antonio returning.
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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
Noble and Obiang protecting the back four. This ain't gonna end wellhongkonghammer wrote:Hart
Zab Reid Oggy Cress
Noble Obiang
Antonio Ayew Arnie
Chich
Ayew and Obiang need to turn up this week - if not hook them with Rice and Sakho. Based on only Antonio returning.
Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
Hart
Zabaleta Reid Ogbonna Cresswell
Rice
Antonio Noble Obiang Arnautovic
Chicharito
Zabaleta Reid Ogbonna Cresswell
Rice
Antonio Noble Obiang Arnautovic
Chicharito
Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
Key for us this season is getting the most out of Chich which means playing with someone close to him, so either a proper 4-3-3 where the 2 wide forwards play as forwards, not extra midfielders, or play with 2 upfront (or one just off Chich) in which case I would consider bringing back the old diamond formation in Midfield.
Given who is available I would go with either:
----------------Hart
Zabba---Reid---Fonte---Creswell
----Noble---Obiang---Rice
---Antonio---Chich---Arnie
Or
----------------Hart
Zabba---Reid---Fonte---Creswell
----------------Rice
-------Obiang----Noble
--------------Arnie
---------Chich---Ayew
Given who is available I would go with either:
----------------Hart
Zabba---Reid---Fonte---Creswell
----Noble---Obiang---Rice
---Antonio---Chich---Arnie
Or
----------------Hart
Zabba---Reid---Fonte---Creswell
----------------Rice
-------Obiang----Noble
--------------Arnie
---------Chich---Ayew
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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
Fwiw, the raw stats from the weekend don't paint a picture of a one-sided massacre.
45% possession (more than what we often score at home), 80% passing success, 9 shots, dispossessed fewer times than they were (although obviously the most important one was the one that led to the opener). These aren't meant to suggest we played well - we stunk the joint out - just that the underlying performance has something to build on once a few players return and the opposition not quite so strong. Perhaps the opening 40 minutes - where we didn't remotely threaten but comfortably competed - tell more of a story than the collapse in the final 5 mins.
The telling one is aerial battles - we were walloped there by 23 to 13. That used to be us dominating that stat, against nearly anyone, especially when on defence for so much of a game. Probably reinforces the theory that the XI was a bit willowy, particularly against that basketball team.
45% possession (more than what we often score at home), 80% passing success, 9 shots, dispossessed fewer times than they were (although obviously the most important one was the one that led to the opener). These aren't meant to suggest we played well - we stunk the joint out - just that the underlying performance has something to build on once a few players return and the opposition not quite so strong. Perhaps the opening 40 minutes - where we didn't remotely threaten but comfortably competed - tell more of a story than the collapse in the final 5 mins.
The telling one is aerial battles - we were walloped there by 23 to 13. That used to be us dominating that stat, against nearly anyone, especially when on defence for so much of a game. Probably reinforces the theory that the XI was a bit willowy, particularly against that basketball team.
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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
...and that bringing on Collins into a back three might have helped.Aceface wrote: The telling one is aerial battles - we were walloped there by 23 to 13. That used to be us dominating that stat, against nearly anyone, especially when on defence for so much of a game. Probably reinforces the theory that the XI was a bit willowy, particularly against that basketball team.
He does like a header, after all.
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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
Hart
Byram Reid Collins Creswell
Zabba Obiang
Antonio Noble Arno
Chic
A point away to a decent side in the Prem after last weeks debacle would be a start. Get Collins in to start winning some headers and tackles after powder puff Sunday.
Byram Reid Collins Creswell
Zabba Obiang
Antonio Noble Arno
Chic
A point away to a decent side in the Prem after last weeks debacle would be a start. Get Collins in to start winning some headers and tackles after powder puff Sunday.
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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
A good point. I am looking forward to seeing this one with my Saints supporting cousin.bubbles1966 wrote:The departure of the uber-dross is revealing the merely-dross judging by some of these selections.
Our central midfield would struggle in the championship in the absence of Lanzini and Kouyate.
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Re: Southampton vs West Ham United match thread
i think it is essential we get a point this weekend, especially with a goal
Southampton will score after their barren run, not b/c they are playing us, simply because the law of averages says they will
1-1, and a half decent performance will be a decent outcome
Southampton will score after their barren run, not b/c they are playing us, simply because the law of averages says they will
1-1, and a half decent performance will be a decent outcome