EFLCQF: Arsenal 1-0 West Ham Utd (19/12/17)

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EFLCQF: Arsenal 1-0 West Ham Utd (19/12/17)

Postby Up the Junction on Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:36 am

The icing on our big fat December cake, if we can win this.


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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby bowltorious on Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:46 am

Reckon Wenger might go strong for this for fear of backlash from the fans. I'd start Hernandez and Ayew in this one, Rice and Collins too after their efforts yesterday.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby Doc H Ball on Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:47 am

Let's do these poseurs!
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby ironsjh on Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:58 am

Hart
Reid-Collins-Ogbonna
Byram-Rice-Obiang-Masuaku
Lanzini
Hernandez-Arnautovic

SUBS - Adrian, Cresswell, Zabaleta, Haksabanovic, Ayew, Antonio, Fernandes

FYI - I'd prefer to keep Adrian but I'm pretty certain that's not going to happen.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby Jumby on Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:26 am

Ogbonna in the centre of the back three.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby the pink palermo on Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:55 am

The first big test for David Moyes .

Thousands of supporters making a long trek to the grim North will want to see as a minimum that a quarter final cup competition is taken seriously by the new manager .Hopefully he won't let himself be bullied by the Chairman .

This match matters to the supporters , so let's be seeing the strongest side we can field please .
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby roblo on Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:35 am

After one ticket if anyone has a spare, cheers.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby prophet:marginal on Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:06 am

Another clean sheet here and all major suppliers will face a run on humble pie.

Purely from squad considerations, however, I can well imagine that the new coaching team could have done without this game. Sure, The Emirates is nothing like Highbury and Arsenal fans are hardly the biggest test to play in front of, but this is a derby, again, the 3rd we've played in a long fortnight. And we've got absentees in defence and others who have taken recent knocks.

I can imagine that some of Antonio, Lanzini and Marko, if not all, will be given a bench-style breather, so it is good that Hernandez, Ayew and Sakho have been subs recently.

The most tantalising prospect though is the return of Joe Hart, 3 weeks and a significant upturn in fortunes after his last game. It seems that his best route back into the league first team is to put in some commanding cup performances.

Arsenal are already looking at cups as their only chance of silverware. The thing is, though, is that they are nothing special.

Both teams to make changes, therefore.

West Ham in the 90: Hernandez.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby hammerman11 on Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:27 am

hart
reid ogbonna cresswell
zab obiang kouyate masuaka
arnautovic lanzini Hernandez

subs Adrian rice Collins Antonio sakho quinna ayew

2-1 hammers arnie and Hernandez
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby westlondonhammer on Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:40 am

A few players have given their all recently and could do with a rest

Adrian, Ogbonna, Antonio, Lanzini out
Hart, Reid, Sakho, Ayew in

Is Byram fit? If so, him for Zab too

That team is still taking this more than seriously. Give Hernandez the 2nd half too...maybe for Arnie

Lots of games coming up
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby hammerman11 on Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:49 am

we need to go for it be so good to get through would be a great boost for next few games especially Saturday could be the best atmosphere yet at the dust bowl !

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby swash on Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:40 am

No way would I bring Hart back for this, the defence look far more comfortable in front of Adrian, don't care about keeping Hart happy, as he done nothing to warrant being signed after his loan expires, back Adrian to the hilt, and look to bring in a young promising back up.

Would have to give Antonio a rest though, bring in Hernandez up front
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby OFT on Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:44 am

swash wrote:No way would I bring Hart back for this, the defence look far more comfortable in front of Adrian, don't care about keeping Hart happy, as he done nothing to warrant being signed after his loan expires, back Adrian to the hilt, and look to bring in a young promising back up.

Would have to give Antonio a rest though, bring in Hernandez up front



That's my thinking....

The cup competitions seem a cosy way of keeping the Sub goalie happy but now's not the time for that IMO..continuity is king.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby Danny's Dyer Acting on Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:01 pm

OFT wrote:The cup competitions seem a cosy way of keeping the Sub goalie happy but now's not the time for that IMO..continuity is king.


Important in the position we've been in the last two years with 2 permanent West Ham players to worry about keeping happy. This year is different.

The only considerations should be what is best to win the game and for Adrian's condition. If Moyes wants to give him a break after a huge fortnight for him and thinks Hart can do a good job then great. No need to worry about Hart getting pissed off though, worst case is he begs us and City to let him go back in January.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby WorcesterWHU on Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:32 pm

Goalkeeper is one area of the team that you shouldn't have to rotate for the sake of fitness. Given that our current 2nd keeper is only on loan, for me Adrian has to start.

Who knows what effect having him between the sticks has had on the lads in front of him. Maybe it's a coincidence, maybe it's just the change of formation and plan - but it could be a factor.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby rottiel on Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:09 pm

Really looking forward to this.

Take it seriously and we can do it.

2 - 1 to the Hammers

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby Crossd_Hammrs on Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:08 pm

ironsjh wrote:Hart...

SUBS - Adrian,...

FYI - I'd prefer to keep Adrian but I'm pretty certain that's not going to happen.


That's interesting. If Hart plays well would Adrian then lose his place for Premier League games?
If not, that would suggest that Hart was indeed "dropped" not merely lost his place to an in-form keeper. And if he was therefore "dropped" then that would be due to poor form, so how would you (Moyes, that is) warrant picking him for an important cup match?
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby Doc H Ball on Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:22 pm

This is the biggest game of the season so far to me.

Strongest fit 11. Adrian should start.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby The Old Man of Storr on Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:56 pm

Now we've given ourselves some breathing space in the Premier League there's really no excuse not to at least try to beat Arsenal at the Emirates - After failing to qualify for the Champions League last season surely Wenger's priority is the Premier League so hopefully he won't field too strong a team , traditionally it's not a Cup that Arsenal take an interest in .

Will be interesting to see what tactics Moyes employs , I suspect it will be to defend and hope to catch them on the break - Arnautovic and Hernandez to score , 0-2 West Ham .
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby Hammertapp on Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:58 pm

Doc H Ball wrote:This is the biggest game of the season so far to me.

Strongest fit 11. Adrian should start.


This. He’s the better keeper. What benefit do we get from playing Hart? He’s not our player so I don’t see the point.

Adrian; Reid, Ogbonna, Cresswell; Byram, Masuaku; Rice, Obiang; Lanzini (Ayew if suspended); Chicha, Arnie.

I think Antonio and Zaba need a bit of a rest and can come back in for the Newcastle game. Also this is the perfect opportunity to give Hernandez his first start since injury. If Sakho plays instead of Arnautovic I wouldn’t be surprised either but I’d prefer we give it a right go. They’re for the taking!

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