West Ham Utd 2-3 Newcastle Utd (23/12/17)

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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby hammer1975 on Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:44 am

Fullbacks exploited - even in a 5 at the back formation.

Kouyate and Obiang continue to not 'gel' together in centre mid.

Same probs, different day
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby Tenbury on Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:53 am

And we threw a cup game for that.Yet another Christmas ruined.Whether you like Moyes or not,seems to me he's about our level.TBH,we're crap.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby Hugh Jargon II on Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:59 am

Did anyone see antonio on itvs attempt at sky's league of their own?

Put it this way...if he played for anyone than us I would have classed him as an obnoxious conceited ****er.

I suspect he has been "got at" with his brief flirtation with the England squad. He will be off soon I suspect.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby Crouchend_Hammer on Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:13 am

For someone who is supposed to be a defensive manager, Brnitez certainly set them up in an attacking way yesterday. They were constantly getting 5 and 6 players in our box. Even with five at thr back we are still ridiculously suspect to teams who attack at pace on the counter, esp from wide areas
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby MorthwylMawr on Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:20 am

They overloaded us on attacks, we didn't seem to track them so they had options when attacking. Fair play to Rafa they totally exploited our weaknesses and deserved the win.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby rossmundo on Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:31 am

Zabaleta...over-rated nightmare of a player. Shouldn't be anywhere near the team.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby steps on Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:34 am

You could tell Ayew was going to miss that penalty before he took it, it was right in my eyeline, minimal run-up and he didn’t look very confident. I was surprised it was even given, looked outside of the box to me.

Also, Adrian beaten on his near post for the free-kick. He was too far across on the other side of the goal, it was almost as he was gifting it like Jaaskelainen used to do.

Far too many errors yesterday. I see Moyes was talking himself up in the press pre-match, well we’re not out of the woods yet. Silly thing to do at this stage of the season imo, very Allardyce-esque.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby rciron on Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:16 am

Tenbury wrote:And we threw a cup game for that.Yet another Christmas ruined.Whether you like Moyes or not,seems to me he's about our level.TBH,we're crap.

:thup: summed up precisely for me
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby Chicken Run Supreme on Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:21 am

FWIW I saw it as a penalty. Looked bang on the line and that's good enough for me. However it was as clear as crystal thst Ayew was never going to score, nervous and hesitant not a good mix.
We are in a relegation fight for the long haul I fear. We really are the gift that keeps giving for teams on a bad run. Bournemouth and West Brom next, they must be licking their lips.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby Iron George on Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:24 am

bubbles1966 wrote:I think Cresswell was picked pretty much because of his set play capabilities. Understandable in Lanzini's absence.


You mean his ability to float harmless free kicks straight into their keepers arms?

I watched the last five minutes of the Leicester game last night and saw Marc Albrighton put in three better crosses in five minutes than our entire team managed in 94 yesterday.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby Colours never run on Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:34 am

Patito wrote:

Wall was terrible IMO.



All day long. I'm a big believer that if a Keeper sets a wall one side and mainly guards the other, then good luck to the free kick taker to get it over the wall into the bottom corner which he done. It was a quality free kick well placed with pace. The Keeper had no chance and it shoukdnt be expected of a Keeper to keep that shot out. However from memory the ones in the wall barely jumped high enough. I also had an issue with whoever it was that initially gave the needless free kick away.

As for the other 2 goals defensively, dear God it was awful defending.

It feels like after the good work done against the likes of Stoke and Chelsea, we've gone backwards again with Moyes having a mare of a week the last 2 games. Let's have it right, Newcastle battered us and the woodwork saved our blushes which kept us still in it at half time. A newly promoted team who struggled to buy a win in 10. Absolutely pitiful performance.

And we certainly haven't done any better than had Bilic stayed.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby Irrons on Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:46 am

Watching MOTD this morning we were shocking at the back and non-existent defensively in midfield. Their first 3 chances after the equaliser (post, bar and just over) they had 3-4 players in the space between our defence and midfield completely unmarked every time. And for their second there is no pressure on the ball whatsoever, Ciaran Clark is allowed to bring the ball down and take TWO touches and then play a forward ball under ZERO pressure from Kouyate who just stands there. Then Zabaleta jumps in like a ****ing amateur and we're 1-2 down. The way we gifted them the third is just keystone cops and again Zabaleta is at fault for not taking charge and then clearing it straight into his own player.

Kouyate should be nowhere near our team and Zabaleta simply isn't good enough.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby chalks on Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:49 am

Billydinho wrote:
Why though Chalks? Why does he want out?


He’s got a case of the Nigel Reo Cokers.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby hammer_sandwich on Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:59 am

rossmundo wrote:Zabaleta...over-rated nightmare of a player. Shouldn't be anywhere near the team.


Completely agree. I’m amazed how he gets himself out of position on a constant basis. Been at fault for so many goals this season. Was a good player in his day. Is way way past it now.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby Wembley1966 on Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:51 pm

johnnyb wrote:Was Newcastle's first goal caused by a poor wall or poor goalkeeping? Haven't seen it again yet but the actual free kick didn't seem that well struck from where I was sitting.

Cresswell! His attempted cross-field pass from one touchline to the other when there were better options, got nowhere near our player and was easily intercepted. Then Reid panics and kicks at the ball at head height instead of heading it away.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby Georgee Paris on Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:58 pm

I imagine he’ll go somewhere like Everton. Shame he seemed a really nice lad when he first arrived. Sad to hear he’s become a tosser both on and off the pitch.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby steps on Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:24 pm

Wtf was Kouyate doing for their second goal? He just casually jogged back and let Diame run past him failing to track at all.

Dreadful.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby Crossd_Hammrs on Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:27 pm

steps wrote:Wtf was Kouyate doing for their second goal? He just casually jogged back and let Diame run past him failing to track at all.

Dreadful.


He's done that for the past 12 months.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby steps on Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:35 pm

Crossd_Hammrs wrote:He's done that for the past 12 months.


We’re in desperate need of a competent DM. It has to be our number one priority in Jan.
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Re: West Ham Utd v Newcastle Utd: match thread

Postby Coops on Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:37 pm

I was hoping Rice would be given the nod yesterday.
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