Liverpool 4-1 West Ham Utd (24/02/18)

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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby Crouchend_Hammer on Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:02 am

MB wrote:
Why spend £10m on a young wing back when you can get “experienced” ones for free?


Tbf when Robertson left dundee united and we were linked with him people thought Cresswell was england quality. People still thought liverpool might buy Cresswell as recently as last summer
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby richneal on Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:08 am

As predicted by all except the delusional (er, me . . .) we got a deserved kicking from a much better and in-from team - absolutely no surprises there.

Positives - could have shipped six or seven - thank-you woodwork and Adrian. Arnie did a lot of work up top all on his todd.

Negatives - won't whine about too much but some of the passing from Ogbonna was embarrassing.

IMHO best player on the pitch was van Dijk. At some point we're going to need to see Hugill, Antonio and Arnie on the pitch at the same time in order to give a back four a real battering.
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby hammerman11 on Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:13 am

the defence was awful today but playing three old players was suicide against the quick footed Liverpool players.
how can you start a 36 year old fullback in a game like this ?

ginge got exposed today which we knew he would so why did moyes play all 3 ? Rice was on the bench and should have started.

Adrian kept us in it at times. no protection.

Mario and lanzini in the same side away was also baffling.

onto another big game. if moyes sets up not to lose , we will !
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby Odessa on Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:45 am

As regards the t-shirts were these courtesy of West Ham or LFC?

Apologies for not reading the entire thread.
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby White Goodman on Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:03 am

61dicksey wrote:You cannot play old players against a team such as Liverpool , you need at least athleticism and sadly at md to late 30’s you have only got experience no pace. Zabaleta tries and is obviously was a good player but he is gone , Collins will always get done for pace, Evra is i guess Masuakas ban sit in for now. Cresswell has lost all semblence of a footballer.


The fastest man on earth is 36. Shame on you.
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby the pink palermo on Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:09 am

White Goodman wrote:The fastest man on earth is 36. Shame on you.


I had to read that twice .

I thought it said the fattest man on earth .And I'm 54.
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby prophet:marginal on Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:29 am

Puff Daddy wrote:Having seen the MOTD highlights, none of our defenders covered themselves in glory, but I thought Adrian and Ginge were very poor. Ginge looked utterly bemused at what was going on around him and Adrian's decision making and footwork was questionable. I would drop both of them for Swansea


I'm a big fan of Ginge's, and always have been. Yesterday was a big challenge for him, made a lot harder by the use of aging wing backs in Zabaleta and Evra. Those were difficult conditions for him.

I only saw highlights, but, from them, it was clear that Adrian saved 2 or 3 additional goals from going in.

The poverty was the initial selection. The players struggled, for sure, but they all did, in reality, against one of only a pair of teams habitually scoring 2+ goals a game.

We need a dust down and a re-focus. We don't need to drop the only decent goalkeeper we have.
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby Wilko1304 on Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:30 am

What are we dropping Adrian for?! The one goal he could have actually stopped where he cane out after the defence again had been exposed with a run in behind?
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby claretchris on Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:37 am

When you consider where we were compared to Liverpool in 2016 to where we are now, it's poles apart and only further highlights the gross under investment in the squad. GSB got 'lucky' with Payet and then rested on their laurels whilst giving it the big un re next level etc - quite depressing really...
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby bubbles1966 on Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:40 am

Liverpool have been scoring for fun all season - Arsenal and Man City both went for four there and no one has beaten them at Anfield.

Tottenham outplayed them by being tight, only conceding one stupid goal and then outmuscling them.

We gave away three stinkers - none of which was really down to Collins, Evra, Zabaleta.

The goalkeeper was feeble and he didn't have his defence organised for the first goal; Cresswell gave the ball away needlessly for the second and the third was shambolic - Mario and Adrian.

Anyone who watches Liverpool regularly must know the risk is mainly in the transition and on the counter.
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby prophet:marginal on Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:50 am

bubbles1966 wrote:
Anyone who watches Liverpool regularly must know the risk is mainly in the transition and on the counter.


That was made abundantly clear at the home match, against them.
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby bristolhammerfc on Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:52 am

This was probably the single most predictable result of the Premiership.

We are a side built to battle for pickings amongst the bottom 12 teams. We are no where near a side that can be positive against the top sides and at best we look to nick a result where we can.

You can't compete with a side that contains the average Adrian, a painfully slow and regularly exposed Zabaleta, Collins and Evra.
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby bubbles1966 on Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:53 am

Before the game it was highlighted that they score the vast majority of their home goals between 45 and 75 minutes.

That was the bit of the game where it had to be kept really tight and mistakes and needless loss of possession had to be avoided. We failed spectacularly on this front.
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby bristolhammerfc on Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:59 am

bubbles1966 wrote:
That was the bit of the game where it had to be kept really tight and mistakes and needless loss of possession had to be avoided. We failed spectacularly on this front.


Its why I think it was a mistake to bring Lanzini back into the starting line up. He isn't a player set up for that.

It may have been beneficial to have Rice playing in front of the back four.
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby ayriron on Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:33 am

Tbf when Robertson left dundee united and we were linked with him people thought Cresswell was england quality. People still thought liverpool might buy Cresswell as recently as last summer[/quote]

we watched Hendrie and Robertson for ages Robertson moved eventually we bought Hendrie everyone and their granny up here could have told you Robertson would be a better bet
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby Al Fisti on Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:41 am

First of all you have to say that Livperpool is magnificent currently, but Moyes should have started with the same lineup as against Watford. It was a mistake to bring Evra and Lanzini from the beginning, who hasn´t played for a long time before.

You can´t always expect, that Arnautovic and Lanzini run our offensive alone.

Mario had a nightmare yesterday
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby bubbles1966 on Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:42 am

Robertson now has the luxury of playing in a team that scores prolifically so it gets overlooked that he was completely AWOL for Antonio's goal and Arnie mugged him off a couple of times.

It's all very similar to Cresswell. If he gets all game to sling crosses in he looks great. Ask him to defend, that's another matter.
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby europeanscum on Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:53 am

Edit - repost.
***** those t shirts are going for up to £322 on the bay
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby Hammersfaniow on Sun Feb 25, 2018 11:55 am

Odessa wrote:As regards the t-shirts were these courtesy of West Ham or LFC?

Apologies for not reading the entire thread.


I think a lot of people were wondering who’d done it, but the WHU PR machine was very quick to put an article on the OS stating 3000 supporters wore Bobby t-shirts, ‘provided by the club’.

There’s already a load on eBay, one is going for over £300 currently. Would be nice to see money donated to charity but I doubt it will, shame
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Re: Liverpool v West Ham Utd: match thread

Postby Hatcham Iron on Sun Feb 25, 2018 12:14 pm

bristolhammerfc wrote:This was probably the single most predictable result of the Premiership.

We are a side built to battle for pickings amongst the bottom 12 teams. We are no where near a side that can be positive against the top sides and at best we look to nick a result where we can.

You can't compete with a side that contains the average Adrian, a painfully slow and regularly exposed Zabaleta, Collins and Evra.

exactly this
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