Arsenal 4-1 West Ham Utd (22/04/18)

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby bubbles1966 on Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:53 pm

MrHammer73 wrote:Was it me or did Ogbonna look injured?

Just another example of the incompetence of our board letting Fonte go and playing a injured centre half.


He has had tendonitis.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby HammerAl on Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:09 pm

Bit of a free hit today’s game but disappointing to lose the way we did but it definitely wasn’t a 4-1 kind of game, especially comparing that to a result and performance like City put in this afternoon. We didn’t play badly but I did lose count of how many times the ball was played through our midfield with ease. We also looked shattered for the last 20 mins or so. Just need to make sure we best Everton.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby Puff Daddy on Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:22 pm

HammerAl wrote:Bit of a free hit today’s game but disappointing to lose the way we did but it definitely wasn’t a 4-1 kind of game, especially comparing that to a result and performance like City put in this afternoon. We didn’t play badly but I did lose count of how many times the ball was played through our midfield with ease. We also looked shattered for the last 20 mins or so. Just need to make sure we best Everton.


We did, but that was the result of the way Moyes set the team up. We wouldn't have looked quite so shattered had Noble and Kouyate in particular, improve their ball retention.In the heat
too, this ensured the ball kept coming back at us and with tiring limbs, this also meant tiring minds. This was the only reason we capitulated in that last 10 minutes, during which time, they scored 3 goals
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby miketheloop on Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:02 pm

Hate Arsenal.

Lost my wife to a gooner ****.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby Humbug on Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:35 pm

The more I look at the highlights the more p**sed off I get.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby EastEndIRON on Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:36 pm

miketheloop wrote:Hate Arsenal.

Lost my wife to a gooner ****.


Her loss mate - our family is better :crest:
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby smuts on Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:41 pm

Humbug wrote:The more I look at the highlights the more p**sed off I get.


What's galling is that we had pretty much every one back and in the picture when they waltzed through for their last 2 goals.

We looked creamed by the end. I suppose that's what happens when you have a thin, ageing squad.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby upton o'good on Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:45 pm

And when it is really hot
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby bubbles1966 on Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:46 pm

smuts wrote:We looked creamed by the end. I suppose that's what happens when you have a thin, ageing squad.


Ain't that the truth.

We looked tired and beaten after the second. Players who couldn't give any more.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby smuts on Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:47 pm

upton o'good wrote:And when it is really hot


Has their Miami tan faded already? :)
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby Samba on Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:49 pm

Didn't know the result. Just watched motd.
Awful, just f***ing awful.
An absolute joke.
Were you watching, David Sullivan?
THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby Humbug on Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:50 pm

So Hart shouts "Away" behind Declan!!!! So with the crowd shouting , Declan trying to organise the line concentrating on the cross , he is supposed to also understand some sudden instruction from behind him while the ball is in the air? Hart is proving he is too stupid to be a PL or England goalkeeper.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby smuts on Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:54 pm

Humbug wrote:So Hart shouts "Away" behind Declan!!!! So with the crowd shouting , Declan trying to organise the line concentrating on the cross , he is supposed to also understand some sudden instruction from behind him while the ball is in the air? Hart is proving he is too stupid to be a PL or England goalkeeper.


Law of defending is to clear it. Hart did nothing wrong but give him the right call as most keepers would do in that situation.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby EastEndIRON on Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:55 pm

Humbug wrote:So Hart shouts "Away" behind Declan!!!! So with the crowd shouting , Declan trying to organise the line concentrating on the cross , he is supposed to also understand some sudden instruction from behind him while the ball is in the air? Hart is proving he is too stupid to be a PL or England goalkeeper.


It was NOT Harts fault

Hart actually produced two excellent saves prior to the Arsenal second which kept us in the game

Communication between players is a crucial aspect of the game, I don’t think you can dig Hart out on this occassion. If there is any element of doubt in a defenders mind he has to clear it
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:48 pm

What really pisses me off no end is........no one seems to have gotten any photos of the cheese board in the Director's Box

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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby Humbug on Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:54 pm

EastEndIRON wrote:
It was NOT Harts fault

Hart actually produced two excellent saves prior to the Arsenal second which kept us in the game

Communication between players is a crucial aspect of the game, I don’t think you can dig Hart out on this occassion. If there is any element of doubt in a defenders mind he has to clear it


If he'd just shut his mouth, Declan would have cleared it. Why say anything at all?
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby EastEndIRON on Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:09 am

As I said, it is the job of the keeper to communicate with the back line. Stop making Hart the skapegoat.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby smfc on Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:55 am

Humbug wrote:If he'd just shut his mouth, Declan would have cleared it. Why say anything at all?


I'm far from a fan of Hart but two things here:

1. If the keeper shouts "away" then you clear it
2. If you are in any doubt you clear it

You can clearly hear Hart at games, he is pretty vocal when he needs to be and he shouts "away!" a LOT. Not just him but other players will as well, the keeper can't always see everything that might be happening.

Some will say if the keeper shouts "mine" you should leave it. I never ever did that, too many cheeky buggers can shout that.

Rice clearly at fault, not a big deal - mistakes and lessons learned, all part of the game.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby Stevo44 on Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:18 am

smfc wrote:Some will say if the keeper shouts "mine" you should leave it. I never ever did that, too many cheeky buggers can shout that..


When I played keeper yelling "mine" was an indirect free kick.

We were taught three calls - "away", "man on" and "keeper!" - very simple.
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Re: Arsenal v West Ham United: Match Thread

Postby Tenbury on Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:15 am

Ironing Board wrote:It’s an old point, but Moyes is playing with the cards he has. I doubt he is happy with the squad, and if he is signing Allen and Butland it shows where his priorities lie.

The team is in dire need of defensive and midfield reinforcements. A couple of centre halfs, with Rice protected as the first reserve behind an experienced paring so he can build experience without being hung out to dry, seem crucial


And yet there are numerous posts from you,and a couple more of his apologists, pointing out how much better organised we are defensively now, and ,indeed how much fitter we look(!)..Couple of seasons ago we went there ,first game, and gave them a good shafting...just sayin..I
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