Watford 2-0 West Ham Utd (19/11/17)

[Puff Daddy]

If it wasn’t for Arnautovic today who’s literally been written off by entire fan base, we wouldn’t of had any chances.

We were completely bossed today by Watford, for at least 85 minutes.

At least under Bilic we’d have goals in us, today we looked woeful going towards. If we’d of scored they’d of been fudged goals that’d of gone against the run of play. At no time did I think we played any half decent football.

Watford knocked it around with confidence and ease.

We've been in this league longer than them. Why is it, they and quite a few others who have come up after us, look so much better than us ?

[e-20]

Think we just have to accept that the club is rotten to the bone, it actually has been so since this mob took over which is ironic considering the state of it beforehand though it probably had its roots there. Fact is and many will hate to accept it Allardyce with Nolan in the dressing room by force of will, temporarily stopped the rot and even started to reverse it for a while but the poison from above resumed even in his time ably assisted by little Jack spreading the sense of amateurism and has taken on a serious momentum now that may be almost impossible to reverse any time soon.

I had already begun to think we were Sunderland in the making (or on a good day Aston Villa perhaps) and felt further depressed listening to Grayson this morning on his time at the helm of the former. So much of it sounded so very familiar what with the insidious negative atmosphere throughout the club and in particular when he said the apparent upbeat positivity on the training ground completely dissipated the moment they stepped into the stadium and the lack of required investment from the owner.

[yonni]

Oh well, I'm quite looking forward to Middlesboro and Sunderland away. Hope the relegation hurts your pocket you tiny porn Cossack twat.

[leer34]

I dont really understand how people can dig out moyes, he's only been here about 10 days ffs,
The rot set in a long time ago we simply cannot compete with any opposition with anykind of mobility,

Our midfield is non exisitent and means we can never get hold of any game,
If you cannot compete physically you cant win football matches.

[Believer]

I don't blame Zola, Grant, Allardcye, Bilic or Moyes for the state our club is in these days.

I fully blame Gold, Sullivan and Brady.

I’ve said it before, the club motto on our shirts should read “buy cheap buy twice”

[Westferry Iron]

Same old story. Not showing for the ball. Second best on every loose ball. We contrived to make Watford look like Brazil 1970 for long periods in both halves.

There's 8 minutes of injury time on the clock and we're 2-0 down. What do we do boys?? I know, pass it around at the back, that'll work. It's hopeless, utterly hopeless. Christ knows, I hope I'm wrong and it gets sorted but I wouldn't bet on it right now.

[Ingwe]

What I don't understand is these fans who moan about our shyte owners yet turn up and pay out week after week. Unless you appreciate that football means fu** all to the three asset strippers, you will carry on filling their swelling coffers and they'll continue taking the p. Boycott and mean it. It's the only way out for our club. Whilst there's money to be made, they'll carry on.

[Believer]

We've been in this league longer than them. Why is it, they and quite a few others who have come up after us, look so much better than us ?

They have a plan. A footballing plan. It’s not all about a pound note. If it’s not working they change it. They don’t go buying £20m players for the sake of it - they buy players that fit their system and their plans. They don’t have a jumped up wannabee oligarch as chairman. They don’t have 12 year old kids all over twitter discussing club business.

To summarise, they’re everything we are not or will ever be with these money grabbing charlatans in charge. Today was IMO the day that a lot of supporters will have smelt the coffee. A lot of people were blaming Bilic. As Brothernero rightly said, it’s not the managers - it’s the lying thieving cheats that appointed them who are to blame.

Roll on Friday....

[Crouchend_Hammer]

They have a plan. A footballing plan. It’s not all about a pound note. If it’s not working they change it. They don’t go buying £20m players for the sake of it - they buy players that fit their system and their plans. They don’t have a jumped up wannabee oligarch as chairman. They don’t have 12 year old kids all over twitter discussing club business.

To summarise, they’re everything we are not or will ever be with these money grabbing charlatans in charge. Today was IMO the day that a lot of supporters will have smelt the coffee. A lot of people were blaming Bilic. As Brothernero rightly said, it’s not the managers - it’s the lying thieving cheats that appointed them who are to blame.



Roll on Friday....

Watford have had abiut eight managers in about three years. Their owners choose about 90% of their players and up until recently were moving them between the different teams they owned

That isn't really a good model to follow

[SammyLeeWasOffside]

The only real change seemed to be that we accepted our fate at 2-0 rather that throwing on attackers and getting picked off for 4 or 5.

No movement, no real effort to make ourselves available. Concede early, miss a golden opportunity or 2 then concede a sloppy goal to finish us off.

[pablo jaye]

Watford were excellent, what I'd pay to see us perform like that, proper classy football.

They did everything a team needs to in order to survive the Prem;-
Organised
Played as a team
Pressed
Good level of fitness
Made themselves available for the ball

Not necessarily excellent, but I was sat there thinking 'we should be doing that' - I think we were the polar opposite in each of those departments.

Big plus today though, was the away support - extremely proud of each and every one of you. Did the club proud and the messages came across so loud and clear!!!

[sendô]

Well, it was never going to be likely, in spite of the clear PR attempt by the club this week to make so much of "how hard we've been working", that West Ham were suddenly going to be buzzing with energy. Nonetheless, I expected more than what we saw from our midfield whenever Watford came into our half - a team of players standing off and watching, waiting for the ball to somehow land in their laps whilst each and every Watford player received the ball in 5+ yards of clear space, with no real pressure.

At one point I watched Arnautovic hover between 2 and 4 yards off of their left back, like he was unable to get closer to him due to some invisible force field, as he took his time and picked out the pass he was going to make.

He might as well of got a round of teas in at the same time.

It was also painfully clear in that game that we are suffering from a lack of wingers. We looked better when Masuaku came on and started to hit the channels on the left, and Lanzini went wide right. Too often we slowly pass the ball across our back 4, only for the full back to have nowhere to go when it gets to him.

Obiang seems to have regressed as a footballer. Did he make a tackle? Whenever he received the ball he seemed determined to give it away.

It's going to be a long, long season.

[Alex77]

I dont really understand how people can dig out moyes, he's only been here about 10 days ffs,
The rot set in a long time ago we simply cannot compete with any opposition with anykind of mobility,

Our midfield is non exisitent and means we can never get hold of any game,
If you cannot compete physically you cant win football matches.

It is not so much about digging out Moyes, although I think he is an uninspired retrograde appointment. It is more the utter sh*t we have been fed over the last month or so by a club run into the ground by its owners who are treating the fans like idiots. The club is a laughing stock and the squad is not a top 10 squad, it is an unbalanced shambles.

The Brady propaganda machine has been in overdrive, as if it ever stops, everyone is wheeled out to eulogise about the intensity in training as if none of this season would have ever happened if it wasn't for Bilic's loyalty to his assistants and their questionable training methods, Moyes tells us without any sense of irony it appears that West Ham have "got themselves a good manager" and then predictably you get a performance every bit as insipid, disjointed and uninspiring as the last few against what looked to me like a pretty average Watford side. The stark facts is that we have an overpaid, underperforming rabble of a squad and are paying the price for signing "names" and making questionable agent/ Tony Henry/ David Sullivan driven signings with no interest in building a long term strategy on the playing side.

[smuts]

We can gripe about the Hughes handball for the second but would anyone really have thought we would have been hard done by if the ref had pulled out a red when Carroll flew in with his elbows 5 seconds in?

[simon1982]

Probably the worst performance I have seen for a very long time. They need to bin the dead donkey and sharpish. You can't be going round smashing people after 30 seconds. Reid and obiang were also shocking.
Arnie was the only improvement on a confidence sapping squad.
No idea where we go from here

[smuts]

Well, it was never going to be likely, in spite of the clear PR attempt by the club this week to make so much of "how hard we've been working", that West Ham were suddenly going to be buzzing with energy. Nonetheless, I expected more than what we saw from our midfield whenever Watford came into our half - a team of players standing off and watching, waiting for the ball to somehow land in their laps whilst each and every Watford player received the ball in 5+ yards of clear space, with no real pressure.

At one point I watched Arnautovic hover between 2 and 4 yards off of their left back, like he was unable to get closer to him due to some invisible force field, as he took his time and picked out the pass he was going to make.

He might as well of got a round of teas in at the same time.

It was also painfully clear in that game that we are suffering from a lack of wingers. We looked better when Masuaku came on and started to hit the channels on the left, and Lanzini went wide right. Too often we slowly pass the ball across our back 4, only for the full back to have nowhere to go when it gets to him.

Obiang seems to have regressed as a footballer. Did he make a tackle? Whenever he received the ball he seemed determined to give it away.

It's going to be a long, long season.

I've been a big fan of Obiang but he's been awful all season and today topped it off.

Agree about Arthur, the only one to get above 10mph all game.

[MadMart]

No idea where we go from here

Hi Mr Moyes

[WorcesterWHU]

I expected a bit more of a response than that game, all told.

Problem is I feel like we're into the realms of trying to figure out who the three worst teams are so we can come 17th; and I think we're probably one of them.

What a godawful mess.

[sendô]

At the moment it's debatable if Swansea and Palace look worse than us.

We certainly don't look better than any of the teams above us.

[ballantine]

Well, at least I don't care as much under Moyes.