Brooking/Brady/Hoddle [POLL]
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Brooking/Brady/Hoddle [POLL]
3 brilliant players, 3 different London clubs.
Realistically, without bias, who was the best?
Realistically, without bias, who was the best?
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i was thinking of Karen Brady reading the title, could have made a decent porno :lol:
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Re: Brooking/Brady/Hoddle
Having seen all three play, I'd have to go
1 Hoddle
2 Brooking
3 Brady
I put Hoddle first purely because he seemed to have more influence on a game than Sir Trev. He could turn a game with an outrageous pass or bit of skill.
It'sa very close call between all of them though. I feel priveleged to have seen them play in their prime.
1 Hoddle
2 Brooking
3 Brady
I put Hoddle first purely because he seemed to have more influence on a game than Sir Trev. He could turn a game with an outrageous pass or bit of skill.
It'sa very close call between all of them though. I feel priveleged to have seen them play in their prime.
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Agreed. Hoddle was amongst the very best in the world in his prime.....and still would be today in my opinion.Johnny Byrne's Boots wrote:Having seen all three play, I'd have to go
1 Hoddle
2 Brooking
3 Brady
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Re: Brooking/Brady/Hoddle
I'd put them the other way round - Brady, Brooking and HoddleJohnny Byrne's Boots wrote:Having seen all three play, I'd have to go
1 Hoddle
2 Brooking
3 Brady
I put Hoddle first purely because he seemed to have more influence on a game than Sir Trev. He could turn a game with an outrageous pass or bit of skill.
It'sa very close call between all of them though. I feel priveleged to have seen them play in their prime.
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Re: Brooking/Brady/Hoddle
3 great midfielders who were a cut above their peers. They were all gentlemen of the game as well which made it easier to appreciate them at the time . Not sure I could name the best to be honest without bias, but after watching Brooking for so many seasons I would unhesitantly call him the best.
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For me Brooking was better in international football than the other two, Brady and Hoddle were more effective in the domestic game but had better players around them most of their careers for their club sides.
To be fair to Hoddle no England Manager seemed to trust him, the likes of the safe and boring Ray Wilkins regularly kept Sir Trev and then Hoddle out the side.
To be fair to Hoddle no England Manager seemed to trust him, the likes of the safe and boring Ray Wilkins regularly kept Sir Trev and then Hoddle out the side.
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For me, Brady just edges it. And I think the tint of my specs means I'd then rate Trev higher than Hoddle.
Very good question; that type of player is such a rarity in this day and age and each in his prime was a magician.
Very good question; that type of player is such a rarity in this day and age and each in his prime was a magician.
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Re: Brooking/Brady/Hoddle
I agree with Beckton about international football. Much like Matt Le Tissier, Hoddle was a one-off, too difficult to fit into the England side. The powers that were there at the time preferred to opt for the safe utility player option, swapping the potential of match-winning flair for someone who could tackle a bit.
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Easy one for me and I'll tell you the reasons why.
1. Sir Trev
2. Glenn Hoddle
3. Liam Brady
Although rightly lumped together in terms of talent, they are the best three midfielders I've seen, they were actually a bit different which makes comparing more difficult than it first seems. For instance, Hoddle in particular and Brady as well took a magic free kick (shooting at goal) Trev never did or very rarely if ever. Hoddle pased the ball for fun long and short, an amazing player. Brady ran with the ball much more than the other two, Brady had one foot, the other pair had two, he has always been bottom of this threesome for me. Sir Trev was just magic to me, a slight body movement here, letting the ball run accross his body there, the ball did all the work Trev just made something that is incredibly hard look so easy. A big, big man moving gracefully around the pitch creating space with the minimum of movement. Trev probably didn't score enough goals. Hoddle probably gets the nod in that direction. But come the final analysis it goes to Brooking because he did it every single week. Hoddle and Brady did not, at least not to the optimum of Trev.
1. Sir Trev
2. Glenn Hoddle
3. Liam Brady
Although rightly lumped together in terms of talent, they are the best three midfielders I've seen, they were actually a bit different which makes comparing more difficult than it first seems. For instance, Hoddle in particular and Brady as well took a magic free kick (shooting at goal) Trev never did or very rarely if ever. Hoddle pased the ball for fun long and short, an amazing player. Brady ran with the ball much more than the other two, Brady had one foot, the other pair had two, he has always been bottom of this threesome for me. Sir Trev was just magic to me, a slight body movement here, letting the ball run accross his body there, the ball did all the work Trev just made something that is incredibly hard look so easy. A big, big man moving gracefully around the pitch creating space with the minimum of movement. Trev probably didn't score enough goals. Hoddle probably gets the nod in that direction. But come the final analysis it goes to Brooking because he did it every single week. Hoddle and Brady did not, at least not to the optimum of Trev.
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Brooking tops that list for me.
But if theres a midfielder from that era that id want in the current claret and blue. It would have to be Archie Gemmill.
But if theres a midfielder from that era that id want in the current claret and blue. It would have to be Archie Gemmill.
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Good question RARS.
Me too. But any combination is valid, they were all sublime footballers.myladswill wrote:I'd put them the other way round - Brady, Brooking and Hoddle
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Zidane is the perfect example of this. He done a lot with the ball, but it's amazing how little he actually done on the ball.davids cross wrote:Sir Trev was just magic to me, a slight body movement here, letting the ball run accross his body there, the ball did all the work Trev just made something that is incredibly hard look so easy. A big, big man moving gracefully around the pitch creating space with the minimum of movement.
It's so funny how people overcomplicate everything to do with football, with various statistics, analysis, formations, movement and the like.
Football is at it's most effective, when it's kept at it's most simplistic. Do the basics.
Having fit players that can pass the ball, move and control is everything.
The rest takes care of itself.
This thread - and the reason for me starting it - is backed up by the vast differences in opinions here.
I would have been very surprised if there was one clear choice.
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Diamante.rare as rockinghorse shat wrote:3 brilliant players, 3 different London clubs.
Realistically, without bias, who was the best?
Brooking. No doubt.
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I agree with everything DC says. all great players though. good thread rarsdavids cross wrote:Easy one for me and I'll tell you the reasons why.
1. Sir Trev
2. Glenn Hoddle
3. Liam Brady
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Re: Brooking/Brady/Hoddle
tony currie
thought brady was the outstanding player of his generation and imo the best of the 3
however spurs fans will say hoddle, us trev , arse brady
when brady played for us i thought he was brilliant , and wondered just how good he must of been in his prime
thought brady was the outstanding player of his generation and imo the best of the 3
however spurs fans will say hoddle, us trev , arse brady
when brady played for us i thought he was brilliant , and wondered just how good he must of been in his prime
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Exactly right, don't know how much you saw of Sir Trev RARS, expect you've seen videos etc, Zidanes ability to just let the ball run while making space with subtle body movement is the closest I've seen to Sir Trev.rare as rockinghorse shat wrote: Zidane is the perfect example of this. He done a lot with the ball, but it's amazing how little he actually done on the ball.
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Saw all three and they were all sublime. I think Trev would have survived in today's game best, but he never seized a game the way Hoddle could or directed it like Brady did. The Gooner was also the only one to be big abroad as well. Trev and Brady were probably the more consistent as well, but Hoddle was the greatest talent (and shamefully misused by England).
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Re: Brooking/Brady/Hoddle
I only saw a few very late Hoddle performances at Tottenham, but I was far too young to comprehend.
By Swindon and Chelsea, he had obviously passed his prime but still had that touch of class.
Same goes for Brady - I was at the Wolves game.
I was only 3 when Brooking retired.
Of what I know and have seen, you build up a general view of players/teams in history, based on archive footage, opinions of people older than you and you get a general sense of how good a player or team was.
I cannot be biased on the matter, which is a bonus, and from a flawed opinion based on the above, I'd go: Hoddle, Brooking, Brady.
For modern day comparisons of style - not necessarily ability, I'd liken Hoddle to Veron, Brooking to Riquelme and Brady to Van Persie, but not as attacking.
Would that be reasonable?
By Swindon and Chelsea, he had obviously passed his prime but still had that touch of class.
Same goes for Brady - I was at the Wolves game.
I was only 3 when Brooking retired.
Of what I know and have seen, you build up a general view of players/teams in history, based on archive footage, opinions of people older than you and you get a general sense of how good a player or team was.
I cannot be biased on the matter, which is a bonus, and from a flawed opinion based on the above, I'd go: Hoddle, Brooking, Brady.
For modern day comparisons of style - not necessarily ability, I'd liken Hoddle to Veron, Brooking to Riquelme and Brady to Van Persie, but not as attacking.
Would that be reasonable?
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It's good but it's not right. Bloody close though, before I was old enough to know better Currie was my first hero.chigwells finest wrote:tony currie
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