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I think the points about Keith Robson (and many of our players from yesteryear) are valid - if they were doing that sort of stuff these days they would get crucified . . . Some of the things I saw our boys get up to down at the old Epping Forest Country Club, The Room at the Top/Penthouse, Hollywoods and a few other watering holes of the 70's/80's/90's make me cringe. And I'm certain that there are many posters on this site who could tell some very interesting stories about what they saw our players get up to.
Back to Barton. Definitely a talented player, and I think he comes across in many interviews as thoughtful, intelligent and articulate . . . but an absolute handful to say the least. Seems as though he could start a fight in an empty room. Pop psychology ain't my thing, but I have to wonder if this bloke has huge anger management issues.
Barton is obviously a complicated person - not thick, not sensible, not totally in charge of his own life it would seem.
The fact that he seemed to be at his best with Sam as his manager and Nolan as his captain makes me think he needs tough blokes to keep him on the straight and narrow and, given the fact that these two men are currently at West Ham, this leads me to think that we should sign him this summer
(Libero prepares himself for sadly inevitable Joey Barton's a tw*t style derision)
I think it was just chance, you never really control someone like him. Still he's not a bad player when he's playing normally, just unreliable in that he could lose it at any time. We've had worse.
To be honest with you I was thinking the same thing. In all honesty, the bloke when left to his own devices is a complete twat of the highest order - he has a lot of talent but really needs a strong figure to give him guidance or a good kick up the arse when needed ala BFS and Nolan. Remember how gutted he was on Twitter when Nolan left Newcastle?
Look at Andy Carroll as another example - had a lot of problems off the pitch but under Nolan's guidance sorted them out - makes me wonder if this is an issue that is affecting his Liverpool career as he just hasn't been the same since.
I'm not going to bull**** by playing the moral high ground and say I wouldn't want him here. If he shows what he did at Newcastle with the two mentioned above (both the improved discipline and performances) then I would welcome him here with open arms. The question is whether we would take that risk.
Wouldn't want this prick anywhere near our club. No doubt he is talented, but he has had so many chances in his career and life and he hasn't ever most the most out of any of them. In any other walk of life he would have been cut a drift a long, long time ago.
Horrible, horrible ungrateful nasty little prick who has no idea how to behave or how lucky he is.
Well said, the blokes is a ****, and nothing but a ****.
Thoughtful, Intelligent, Articulate?
The blokes a scouser.
I've seen Barton's name bounced around on here for years and my view will always remain that he's too much of a risk for West Ham. Too much baggage and past his prime for what is essentially a hardworking, combative midfielder with an average passing ability.
And thank god our chairmen know that! He is a decent player though and I'd have taken him if he wasn't so much of a liability.
To be honest, I agree. I would sign him, but on a very strictly structured contract.
That game was played on a Saturday afternoon - and Robson punched Burley with a left hook knocking both of his top front teeth out...[/quote]
I stand corrected, I was only a kid at the time however can you imagine the stink if it happened now.
Fined 6 weeks' wages and stripped of captaincy. Thought a 2 week fine was the maximum?
It's easy to dislike Joey Nietzsche, but worth repeating what a loyal Hoops season ticket holder sent me earlier today:
'if you'd asked me in march I would have said hes the most overrated player I've ever had the misfortune of paying to watch , however in the last 10 games ( save for man city ) , he was absolutely outstanding and I could finally see why he rates himself so highly , if he could do it on a regularly basis he'd be a England regular , no question about it . he was instrumental to us staying in the premier league
So I'm afraid his ability as a player somewhat clouds my judgement of him as a person , ability always buys you latitude doesn't it ?
So talk of sacking him etc is completely daft on all levels , were not good enough or rich enough to entertain that option'.
Cue blunts lawyers!
Correction we would have had a complete **** of a man who is not fit to wear the claret & blue instead of one of the best captains we have had in recent years!