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London Derbies

Postby Ricardo on Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:28 pm

Somebody told me recently it's harder for a London club to win the Premiership due to the amount of derbies you have to play each season. Anyone else think this is true?
With a minimum of ten London derbies next season, which ones are you most looking forward to?
And also, what's been your best and worst experiences so far?

While I have nothing against the stadium, I've found the away games at the Emirates to be fairly dull affairs (missed the first one obviously) I've had some good sessions in the away boozer there (something Arms?) but I have never once enjoyed the actual match.
Sky always seem to show our home match against Arsenal, so I just associate it with a 4pm Sunday kick off and being annoyed with the engineering works on the journey home.

I think the one I'm looking forward to the most is Queens Park Rangers away, never seen West Ham play at Loftus Road. And Tottenham at home because it just brings back memories of stopping them getting into Europe.
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Re: London Derbies

Postby cockney farmer on Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:31 pm

Pretty sterile affairs nowadays. QPR has potential next year for a decent away trip (if you can get a ticket !)
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Re: London Derbies

Postby prophet:marginal on Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:46 pm

Farmer's got a point, I think. The intensity of the games is less obvious these days and, given that Chelsea have been repeat league winners when similar numbers of teams from London featured, I'm not so sure that the argument holds much water.

WHL is still the ground that I love most to visit.
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Re: London Derbies

Postby Hackney Hammer on Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:58 pm

I'm looking forward to all of them bar Fulham.
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Re: London Derbies

Postby the pink palermo on Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:08 pm

London clubs - Us, QPR, Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham, Fulham .

North West Clubs - Liverpool , Everton, Manchester United, Manchester City , Wigan, and until recently Bolton Wanderers , Blackburn Rovers , with , for one season only Blackpool .

Midlands clubs - Aston Villa, West Brom, Stoke , and from time to time Wolves, Brum,Leicister and please God, one day Forest & Derby .

North East clubs - Newcastle, Sunderland , Boro .

And then there's Yorkshire , but they are mostly rubbish . :lol:

So, for me , it's not an argument that holds water - I think it's a myth pedalled to explain away under achievement in the capital .We , Londoners , hold all the aces : loads of cash, and an attractive offer to players .Clubs in the North East really have to pay over the odds to get decent players to join them - especially Boro .The Midlands - well , these days Villa will always be the club of preference for a player .

The North West remains the toughest local competition in terms of the number of derbies matches ( in the broadest sense) in my opinion .The London club I always enjoy a trip to is Fulham , as these days it's the only one I would expect to get something at .

That final comment alone illustrates how far we have fallen in recent years .
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Re: London Derbies

Postby prophet:marginal on Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:21 pm

the pink palermo wrote:That final comment alone illustrates how far we have fallen in recent years .


Too true

*sigh*
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Re: London Derbies

Postby rottiel on Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:33 pm

the pink palermo wrote:The London club I always enjoy a trip to is Fulham , as these days it's the only one I would expect to get something at .


Shirley you can add QPR to that, no?
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Re: London Derbies

Postby RyanWHUFC on Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:34 pm

Looking forward and will be going to all the London Derbies, home and away. :thup:
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Re: London Derbies

Postby Knighter10WHU on Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:43 pm

I'll be doing all the 'homes' (Except Fulham as I am on holiday) and all the 'aways' (Except Arsenal) that make members... Some of us aren't as rich as Ryan :lol:

Not looking forward as much as others are to QPR as I've been there in the last 3 years.

I'm quite looking to Chelsea at home, simply as I've never been to it!
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Re: London Derbies

Postby Sweeney Bod on Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:51 pm

I don't get excited about London Derbies anymore. West Ham v Spurs is Essex vs Essex/Herts. Against Chelsea it us v Surrey, and against the Arse, it is us against wherever the ****ers come from.

The good old days of standing in the Shelf/ North Bank/ Shed have long gone
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Re: London Derbies

Postby Hackney Hammer on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:13 pm

Sweeney Bod wrote:I don't get excited about London Derbies anymore. West Ham v Spurs is Essex vs Essex/Herts. Against Chelsea it us v Surrey, and against the Arse, it is us against wherever the ****ers come from.


Nonsense. Virtually all of my mates are either West Ham, Spurs or Arsenal fans (with a couple of Chelsea chucked in) and we're all Londoners.
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Re: London Derbies

Postby Sweeney Bod on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:18 pm

Hackney Hammer wrote:
Nonsense. Virtually all of my mates are either West Ham, Spurs or Arsenal fans (with a couple of Chelsea chucked in) and we're all Londoners.


Mate I am a Poplar boy, but how many West Ham fans live in the East End?
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Re: London Derbies

Postby Hackney Hammer on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:25 pm

Sweeney Bod wrote:Mate I am a Poplar boy, but how many West Ham fans live in the East End?


That's a completely different discussion but there are still plenty of West Ham around Poplar, the Isle of Dogs and Bow. Not too many around Bethnal Green and Whitechapel granted, but how many people around there are even football fans nowadays?
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Re: London Derbies

Postby Sweeney Bod on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:30 pm

Hackney Hammer wrote:That's a completely different discussion but there are still plenty of West Ham around Poplar, the Isle of Dogs and Bow. Not too many around Bethnal Green and Whitechapel granted, but how many people around there are even football fans nowadays?


That was my whole point
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Re: London Derbies

Postby Hackney Hammer on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:36 pm

Sweeney Bod wrote:That was my whole point


What that there aren't many football fans in the East End anymore so matches between us, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea can no longer be regarded London derbies?

There's supporters of all of those clubs all over London.
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Re: London Derbies

Postby Sweeney Bod on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:48 pm

Hackney Hammer wrote:
What that there aren't many football fans in the East End anymore so matches between us, Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea can no longer be regarded London derbies?

There's supporters of all of those clubs all over London.


No

I am sick of having to give ****ing caveats alongside every ****ing post I make, I said I do not class. London Derbies as big things anymore. That is my view and I can neither be wrong nor right as it is a personal ****ing feeling.

If you want an arguement over demographic shifts in inner London, then fine, but don't pull me up over how I feel, because unless you are in my mind, you ain't got a ****ing clue
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Re: London Derbies

Postby Hackney Hammer on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:54 pm

Alright mate, you might want to chill out?

You are perfectly entitled to your opinion, but if you choose to air them on here, I have every right to state my disagreement. This is a public forum after all.
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Re: London Derbies

Postby Sweeney Bod on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:56 pm

Hackney Hammer wrote:Alright mate, you might want to chill out?

You are perfectly entitled to your opinion, but if you choose to air them on here, I have every right to state my disagreement. This is a public forum after all.

If I said "London Derbies" are meaningless, then yes you have aright to contradict.
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Re: London Derbies

Postby sendô on Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:38 am

They're not the same as they were. I realised this a few years back when Arsenal and Man U were sharing the title every year and the big "derby" for Arsenal fans was apparently United. :?

When you can see every team every week why would you worry about whatever teams were closest?
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Re: London Derbies

Postby richneal on Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:32 am

Ricardo wrote:Somebody told me recently it's harder for a London club to win the Premiership due to the amount of derbies you have to play each season. Anyone else think this is true?


Nope. 'Somebody' is full of it mate.

And the fave derby - by a mile - is against the old enemy, nothing to do with the Prem.
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