Andy Carroll

[BondsoBob]

If he stays its surely got to be on a play-for-pay basis.
I still rate him, but his injury record just makes any other kind d of deal untenable.

[Kludgehammer]

How many times recently have you thought, if only Andy Carroll was in that position?

Pretty much never - because our approach play is so much slower and error-prone with him as the fulcrum, we probably wouldn't be getting in good positions in the first place.

Getting him out of the squad at the end of this year will be a huge leap forward for the club

[61dicksey]

“Give Carroll a new contract “ should never be uttered outside of the asylum , get rid and lets bolster our squad with an injury free striker an upgrade on Perez as he is not good enough we need smeone to take some of the burden from Arnie.

[mushy]

If he stays its surely got to be on a play-for-pay basis.
I still rate him, but his injury record just makes any other kind d of deal untenable.

Do any modern day footballers agree to these types of contract ever?

[goingunderground]

I had genuinely forgotten that he existed.

[JerseyHammer]

Do any modern day footballers agree to these types of contract ever?

No, but it's hard to see anyone (with the possible exception of ourselves though by now even we shouldn't be stupid enough) offering anything else

[DasNutNock]

No way he’d sign a pay if you play contract. I suspect he’d be happier to drop down a league and bother their medical staff for a salary than bust his behind trying to get and maintain form & fitness.

[Jumby]

He won't fit in with how we play, it's over.

[prophet:marginal]

Getting him out of the squad at the end of this year will be a huge leap forward for the club

“Give Carroll a new contract “ should never be uttered outside of the asylum

[sutts07]

How many times recently have you thought, if only Andy Carroll was in that position?

Genuinely none. I have pretty much erased him from memory as though he has already left the club to be brutally honest.

I really rate him as a player and still think he has the ability to be one of the best impact subs in the whole league if used in the right way. But we can't continue to dream about an 'injury free Carroll' or continue to pay him while he has one injury set back after another.

[stu1]

How many times recently have you thought, if only Andy Carroll was in that position?

Pretty much never.

The sooner we can plan for a season without having the waste of space that is Carroll filling a position in the squad the better.

The best we should hope for is that he can stay fit for a few games this season and score some goals coming off the bench.

[simonirons]

It’s insane how long this guys been here and just how little he’s actually played.

[Puff Daddy]

It’s insane how long this guys been here and just how little he’s actually played.

The same could can said for Winston Reid. When did he last play a match for us ? Insane offering him a ****ing 6 ****ing year contract

[simonirons]

Fair point Puff. Ludicrous contracts being dished out. - The big man nudges it for me.

[stu1]

In 6 and a bit years he’s managed 128 games and 33 goals in all competitions. Costing approximately £15m in transfer fees, £22.75m in wages and probably a couple of million in medical bills! So roughly £1.2m a goal and counting.

[prophet:marginal]

Is 128 games, starts or all appearances, including coming on as sub?

I am actually surprised its as many as 128, in all honesty.

[stu1]

Is 128 games, starts or all appearances, including coming on as sub?

I am actually surprised its as many as 128, in all honesty.

In all competitions and including sub appearances. I was a little surprised as well, but he did manage 24 apps when on loan and also a further 32 in the 15/16 season. He has however only made more than 18 premier league appaerances in a single season since we signed him on a perminant basis, with many of those being as a sub.

[prophet:marginal]

Personally consider it to be the biggest single waste of money the club has ever embarked on.

(Thanks, though)

[simonirons]

Slightly surprised by that number too. - would be interest to know how many were last 10 minute appearances.

[simonirons]

Yup, of recent times, Kieron Dyer and Freddie ljunberg have nothing on this guy.