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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby JerseyHammer on Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:51 pm

StevePottsGoalsReel wrote:30 years old today.

Happy birthday Andy, lucky you've taken such great care over your body down the years... :raver:


Just think what state he'll be in today, unfit to drive until tomorrow I'd have thought :lol:

In all seriousness it was great to see him score, even though it seems like he realises it might all be coming to an end.
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby OohAahButler on Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:08 pm

I think it’s a simple calculation: Carroll, when fit, is useful to us as a third or fourth choice forward. To come off the bench or, occasionally, cover for first team choices when they’re injured.

If he’s prepared to accept a wage in line with that, supplemented with some appearance bonuses to reflect his permacrock status, as opposed to the wage of a first choice striker that we’re building a team around - then fine, we offer him a short term contract extension. If not, get rid.
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby Kialos on Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:18 pm

There comes a time you just have to let it go, let it go, let it go :scarfer:
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby davids cross on Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:43 pm

Glad he got a goal.

The inner turmoil was very much on show in the celebration.

Just on a personal level I'm glad he did it.
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby MorthwylMawr on Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:46 pm

davids cross wrote:Glad he got a goal.

The inner turmoil was very much on show in the celebration.

Just on a personal level I'm glad he did it.



That's exactly how I feel too. I wish him well, just don't think he's cut out for us anymore. Shame really.
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby brothernero on Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:36 pm

Hi, my name is Brothernero and I am here to confess that I still Like Andy Carroll and would be happy for him to stay and remain one of our back up strikers.







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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby ballantine on Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:43 pm

steps wrote:Judging by his reaction after he scored the header, I’d guess he isn’t getting a new contract.

My immediate thought was that he's off in this window, and it was an attempt at some "dignified" celebration of his final goal for us.
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby warp on Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:44 pm

brothernero wrote:Hi, my name is Brothernero and I am here to confess that I still Like Andy Carroll and would be happy for him to stay and remain one of our back up strikers.


say that again when he's out with no clear return schedule.

i'd like someone who can be relied on a bit more than him. which is probably 98.9% of current professional footballers.
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby OohAahButler on Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:59 pm

brothernero wrote:Hi, my name is Brothernero and I am here to confess that I still Like Andy Carroll and would be happy for him to stay and remain one of our back up strikers. ]

Respect, Brother. Brave man.
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby TommyHammer on Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:59 pm

Pros of giving Carroll an extension:
-Can offer a different option when the game isn't quite going to plan
-Could open up space for wingers/strikers to get in behind when he draws out defenders.

Cons of giving Carroll an extension:
-Hardly fit
-Hardly reliable
-From what we've seen so far, clearly doesn't fit this system or style of play
-On a shed load of money that could be used to sign other players/give new contracts
-Isn't even our third choice striker for me personally

Get rid.
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby Colours never run on Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:04 pm

As a bloke, player I'll always like him. The only issue and it is a major issue is his reliability of actually playing that does my nut in. And regrettably, I've long since come to the conclusion it's time to part company amicably. If I knew he'd play at least 3 quarters of a season, then I'd happily keep him but he's never likely to do that hence moving him on now.
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby Ozza on Sun Jan 06, 2019 5:44 pm

Colours never run wrote:As a bloke, player I'll always like him. The only issue and it is a major issue is his reliability of actually playing that does my nut in. And regrettably, I've long since come to the conclusion it's time to part company amicably. If I knew he'd play at least 3 quarters of a season, then I'd happily keep him but he's never likely to do that hence moving him on now.


exactly where I am :thup:
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby jacko on Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:12 pm

warp wrote:but not too much, or he'd be on a wheelchair.


I think Jack is in possession of the squad wheelchair at this moment.
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby warp on Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:19 pm

^ well, you would know, wouldn't you? :wink:
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby richneal on Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:51 pm

IMHO
1. Was our best defender at set pieces yesterday by a country mile.
2. Was the only reason Brum didn't score. Did well for the clearance on the line.
3. Missed a sitter, hit the woodwork and then finally scored
4. Still looked like he spent far too much of the game wrestling the opposition and still looks like he's quite happy hanging out at the far side of the box/touchline when a cross is developing.

Suspect that against stronger opposition we'd see a lot more of numbers 1 & 4.
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby DannyboyDJL on Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:59 pm

richneal wrote:IMHO
1. Was our best defender at set pieces yesterday by a country mile.
2. Was the only reason Brum didn't score. Did well for the clearance on the line.
3. Missed a sitter, hit the woodwork and then finally scored
4. Still looked like he spent far too much of the game wrestling the opposition and still looks like he's quite happy hanging out at the far side of the box/touchline when a cross is developing.

Suspect that against stronger opposition we'd see a lot more of numbers 1 & 4.


Sounds an awful lot like you'd describe a centre half, not an 80k a week striker.

We'd be better signing an actual centre half who we can put up front when we get desperate.
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby richneal on Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:13 pm

DannyboyDJL wrote:
Sounds an awful lot like you'd describe a centre half, not an 80k a week striker.

We'd be better signing an actual centre half who we can put up front when we get desperate.

Couldn't agree more mate
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby -DL- on Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:28 pm

Clear signs of more fitness from the big man today. He was a right pest both ends of the pitch, and it was a good little cameo :thup:
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby hammers92 on Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:30 pm

-DL- wrote:Clear signs of more fitness from the big man today. He was a right pest both ends of the pitch, and it was a good little cameo :thup:


Was it?
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Re: Andy Carroll

Postby -DL- on Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:31 pm

No, I just thought I'd say it for a reaction. :?
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