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First WHU player to win 100 PL games. Congratulations, Mark - that is a fantastic record.
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Wish he would cut out those two footed lunges like the one on Moses yesterday.

He is in Nolan territory now. You need him on the pitch as a leader, but for large parts of the game he is ineffective. Running around a lot doesn't mean effectiveness.
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bristolhammerfc wrote:Wish he would cut out those two footed lunges like the one on Moses yesterday.

He is in Nolan territory now. You need him on the pitch as a leader, but for large parts of the game he is ineffective. Running around a lot doesn't mean effectiveness.
And the mistake made with Nolan was he was used every game and not given a week off. Hopefully we can pick and choose when Noble plays for him to be more effective (like yesterday)
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Sooner or later, we need to figure out a way to win football matches without him. He won't be around forever.
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Such a weird position we find ourselves in with Noble. It’s almost like we can’t live with him, can’t live without him.

I love him on the pitch, but there are moments where you just wish there was someone who could run a little faster, or trouble the goalkeeper with a shot from distance.

He’s a trier, that’s all I really want I suppose.
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bristolhammerfc wrote:Wish he would cut out those two footed lunges like the one on Moses yesterday.

He is in Nolan territory now. You need him on the pitch as a leader, but for large parts of the game he is ineffective. Running around a lot doesn't mean effectiveness.
That all depends on where you’re running? Was like a game of chess out there yesterday Noble, Obiang & Lanzini had every blade of grass covered for vasts amounts of the game. Severely limited Chelsea’s options.
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miles wrote:Sooner or later, we need to figure out a way to win football matches without him. He won't be around forever.


Which is the most important point of all when discussing Noble and his impact on the team. Either it's an eeirly uncanny coincidence we're far more likely to win with him in it or it's actually because he has a big influence being in the side.
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The man runs, a lot.
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He had a very good game yesterday, as did almost all of them. Players are good or bad depending on organisation and teamwork.
So fair play to the coaches / manager.
Oh, and Noble and Adrian the last to leave the pitch :scarfer:
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Indeed, but with only 70% pass rate, 4.1% possesion and 33% tackle success rate, it shows that running doesn't mean effective.

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/11903 ... am-Chelsea" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You can't underestimate his importance as a leader.
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Could be back to best under Moyes

He suits a manager like Moyes or Sam where a team is more drilled and pulling together

Past 2 seasons under bilic in a team that was quick attacking and gun-ho a bit then games passed him by and wasn’t suited to him
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bristolhammerfc wrote:Indeed, but with only 70% pass rate, 4.1% possesion and 33% tackle success rate, it shows that running doesn't mean effective.

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You can't underestimate his importance as a leader.
He was some way off the pace in the first half yesterday when we were at our best but fair dues, his stamina and calming influence were valuable in holding onto the lead we had in the second half.
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mumbles87 wrote:He suits a manager like Moyes or Sam where a team is more drilled and pulling together
That's a very diplomatic way of saying a team that plays with a back 7 or 8. :)
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Was talking about this at work bubbles
Shame we had a poor relationship with Sam because he worked wonders at Bolton. Got them into Europe but we wanted the fancy football without the amazing players required the play it. Glad we got Moyes in to sort some bits out and I hope it is the chance for him to prove his worth as a manager again. Such a good job with Everton .

Noble won’t start every game under him but will when required do the job needed

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Andytheammer wrote:
That all depends on where you’re running? Was like a game of chess out there yesterday Noble, Obiang & Lanzini had every blade of grass covered for vasts amounts of the game. Severely limited Chelsea’s options.

Exactly that. They barely gave Chelsea a sniff all game, concentrating hard on plugging all the gaps they usually like to exploit. A team holding its shape is so important and demands spot on discipline. This ain't any old mug side, this is one of the best around especially when attacking and we nullified them to f*** all and Noble led the team expertly making sure they and he did their jobs effectively well.
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Mark Noble is the best footballer at the Club
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bristolhammerfc wrote:Indeed, but with only 70% pass rate, 4.1% possesion and 33% tackle success rate, it shows that running doesn't mean effective.

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/11903 ... am-Chelsea" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You can't underestimate his importance as a leader.

His passing was uncharacteristically awry in the first half which skewed those stats.
I put it down to his lay off. Few errors in the second half and finished with more in the tank than most,

Players around him not hiding...he'll excel in those conditions.
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Mark like the rest gave everything, there is an amazing photo of him and Adrian hugging at the final whostle, that is what it Truly Means to those Guys!
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Colours never run wrote: Although I agree it was a poor pass up the field, how the hell would that have cost us well away from our own goal wirh plenty of time for him or others to make a challenge? Plenty of time and distance to recover as we did.

I noticed another poor pass he attempted (although the right idea) up field losing possession by not getting enough on it but rather than allow his head to drop or shirk away from making amends, it was him that chased after his own mistake to retrieve possession back and set us on our way again. That set a good example to his other team mates who have been guilty in the past of just giving up even when it was their own doing.
Exhibit 1 - the last few moments v Palace...? :D
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bristolhammerfc wrote:Indeed, but with only 70% pass rate, 4.1% possesion and 33% tackle success rate, it shows that running doesn't mean effective.

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/11903 ... am-Chelsea" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You can't underestimate his importance as a leader.
Both points very true, but the one thing you can't quantify is how his constant closing down of the opposition led them to misplace passes, or at least not quite make the pass they wanted to make.

He's no 'Pirlo of East London' - he's much better used as he was yesterday - using his work rate to constantly get in the face of the opposition to limit their time on the ball.
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