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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend
In terms of work-rate and ground covered, I'd rather go with Obiang and Kouyate although Kouyate gambles a bit too much with his forward runs which then leaves a big hole. I'm not too fussed about all this obsession with passing stats. Yes Noble is probably the best passer in our MF (excluding lanzini) but are they penetrative passes? Is it reflected in his assists? I'm asking the question as I don't have the stats.
If we're going to play with 3 up front I dont think noble can cover the ground playing in a midfield 2.
If we're going to play with 3 up front I dont think noble can cover the ground playing in a midfield 2.
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend
West Brom are basic as f**k in midfield, Noble and Obiang should be able to take care of them if we play with wing backs and Antonio causing havoc.
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend
He's never had much speed to begin with and at age 30 that's only going to go downhill from hereon in. Noble is in the Kevin Nolan stage of his career imo - he can still do a job for us, but he shouldn't be starting every weekTopbre_22 wrote:If we're going to play with 3 up front I dont think noble can cover the ground playing in a midfield 2.
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I'm pleased he didn't play last night, he shouldn't be playing every week and he did ask to be dropped.
Noble should play fewer games and when he does play he'll have better games and last longer as the years go on. Nothing wrong with not being an automatic starter anymore.
Noble should play fewer games and when he does play he'll have better games and last longer as the years go on. Nothing wrong with not being an automatic starter anymore.
Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend
I am not writing noble off and saying he should be completely gone forever.. he can still do a job but like you say he shouldn't be an auto pichammers92 wrote:I'm pleased he didn't play last night, he shouldn't be playing every week and he did ask to be dropped.
Noble should play fewer games and when he does play he'll have better games and last longer as the years go on. Nothing wrong with not being an automatic starter anymore.
you could have a home line up and an away line up easily
Drop kouyate back into the back 3 for fonte bringing noble in for away games where its going to be tighter
at home we drop noble in favour of a more up tempo game
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I get where you're coming from there, the only issue would be Kouyate having the brains to understand that, for the good of all involved, that would make sense.mumbles87 wrote: Drop kouyate back into the back 3 for fonte bringing noble in for away games where its going to be tighter
at home we drop noble in favour of a more up tempo game
Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend
he is a funny player is kouyate.. at the back he is without a doubt our 2nd best defender (reid being the best) he is a man mountain .. stays back where needed.. breaks up playJumby wrote:
I get where you're coming from there, the only issue would be Kouyate having the brains to understand that, for the good of all involved, that would make sense.
ask him to do the same in midfield? pfft like asking your dog not to eat an open pack of chicken off the floor....
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Kouyate has never once grumbled about playing centre back. We'd know because he made it very clear in those comments over the summer that he had spoken to Slav about not being comfortably shoehorned in at right back.Jumby wrote:I get where you're coming from there, the only issue would be Kouyate having the brains to understand that, for the good of all involved, that would make sense.
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You don't get so many interceptions or saving tackles without having brains. He complained at being played scapegoat RB, but that seemed common sense for the majority. I see a player with massive heart who willingly covers his team mates, which also requires brains. Maybe you got a hang up with Mn's replacements or senegalesitis. He can fluidly drop into the back line from CM, but his presence is required for CM to press/counter effectively.Jumby wrote:I get where you're coming from there, the only issue would be Kouyate having the brains to understand that, for the good of all involved, that would make sense.
3-4-3 or 3-5-2 formations both benefit from Kouyate's strength with him being box2box helping both Defensively & offensively.
Noble doesn't offer enough to displace a trio of OB1/Cheik/Lanzini or OB1/Cheik/Ayew
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brooking1966 wrote:
Noble doesn't offer enough to displace a trio of OB1/Cheik/Lanzini or OB1/Cheik/Ayew
'Maybe you got a hang up with their replacements or Englishitis..'
Calling out Jumby as a possible racist for having a legit opinion is bang out of order.
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Fwiw that's not racism.Colours never run wrote: 'Maybe you got a hang up with their replacements or Englishitis..'
Calling out Jumby as a possible racist for having a legit opinion is bang out of order.
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Which Other CM in our squad would you play ahead of OB1/Cheik/Lanzini /Ayew?Colours never run wrote:'Maybe you got a hang up with their replacements or Englishitis.
Calling out Jumby as a possible racist for having a legit opinion is bang out of order.
FWIW My mum's English/Irish
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend
Mark Noble should only play in the midfield if there are injuries. We should stay 3-4-3 right now and he is not one of the best 2 CM, at home or on the road.Jumby wrote:
I get where you're coming from there, the only issue would be Kouyate having the brains to understand that, for the good of all involved, that would make sense.
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend
brooking1966 wrote:
Which Other CM in our squad would you play ahead of OB1/Cheik/Lanzini /Ayew?
At the moment I'd play the same midfield as last night. I've already stated on another thread earlier today I wouldn't play either Noble or Lanzini even if they're back from injury. I'm not 1 to change a winning side much, if at all.
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend
When was this and where was it confirmed?hammers92 wrote:.... and he did ask to be dropped.
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I read that he was dropped and then pulled out of training with a slight muscle strain
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend
Bilic said it's a minor knee injury he picked up last time out at Newcastle, hence the substitution.