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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby chalks on Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:33 am

RichieRiv wrote:Bit harsh.


I don't think it is Rich

But value your opinion, simply because of love
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby carnage on Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:37 am

RichieRiv wrote:
Bit harsh.

Even if Noble were dropped, I can't see our performances improving. The same conversations were had last season. With or without Noble we were ****. Not much has changed.


Yes, because our best midfielder in the cut and thrust of the premier league, the one with the physicality and drive got shunted to right back and centre back.
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby the pink palermo on Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:45 am

carnage wrote:
Yes, because our best midfielder in the cut and thrust of the premier league, the one with the physicality and drive got shunted to right back and centre back.


our best midfielder is a centre back ?

The things you learn on here .
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby hammerman11 on Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:48 am

think we all agree that nobes should not start but we have a few problems with this notion
he is captain
slav loves him
he has a 6 year contract

the midfield two should be obiang and kouyate unless carvalho joins where obiang should make way.

noble was yards behind everything yesterday.

bolton should be his next starting game
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby carnage on Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:51 am

the pink palermo wrote:
our best midfielder is a centre back ?

The things you learn on here .


Eh? Who said that?
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby Crouchend_Hammer on Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:44 am

chalks wrote:

Which shows how thick some of our support are


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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby sutts07 on Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:58 am

hammerman11 wrote:the midfield two should be obiang and kouyate unless carvalho joins where obiang should make way.


We need a midfield THREE, at least until we can work out how to stop shipping 3 or 4 goals per game.

Rice and Fernandes are not up to it at this level yet and Noble isn't good enough to carry them.

Kouyate Noble and Obiang is our best midfield trio as it stands.
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby fmgod on Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:13 pm

As I said in the match thread, Noble might not be amazing but no one stands a chance playing alongside Rice and Fernandes in a midfield three at this level, at least give himself to work with and then slate him
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby carnage on Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:23 pm

He is the captain and should be inspiring other players. Instead he ambles around doing nothing of note.
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby RichieRiv on Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:26 pm

carnage wrote:He is the captain and should be inspiring other players. Instead he ambles around doing nothing of note.


What happens if those players do no wish to be inspired?
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby carnage on Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:29 pm

RichieRiv wrote:What happens if those players do no wish to be inspired?


A 19 year old and a 21 year old midfielder don't want to be inspired by the Captain? Ship them out then.
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby JCA on Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:30 pm

I know we've got Slav and the other heirachy, but would Fergie (to name just one example) let sentimentality, contracts, etc get in the way of a sound team selection decision........?
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby carnage on Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:33 pm

JCA wrote:I know we've got Slav and the other heirachy, but would Fergie (to name just one example) let sentimentality, contracts, etc get in the way of a sound team selection decision........?


Exactly. And he would have sold Noble by now.
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby RichieRiv on Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:18 pm

carnage wrote:
A 19 year old and a 21 year old midfielder don't want to be inspired by the Captain? Ship them out then.


Have you considered a career in motivational speaking ?
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby dodger on Sun Aug 27, 2017 1:41 pm

somerset-hammer wrote:What I can't get my head around, is that he is seemingly undroppable.

Obiang (a far superior player) has a bad game and is benched by Slav right away.

Stuff like this can't go unnoticed within the squad.

What mess.

This is a good point.

Obiang has had a few poor performances for us, but many more very good ones. He has had a few matches when he was MOTM for us, when was the last time we said that was true of Noble? The only defence those that keep him in have left is that the other players are worse. How do we know if they're always out of the side after a poor performance, while Noble is in no matter how he plays?
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby davids cross on Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:07 pm

Obiangs omission was this weeks cock up.

He's been a bit sketchy, but his omission for this match was unbelievable in the circumstances we were in. Not after timing ....
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby Skandi Brudson on Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:29 pm

TV showed Hart trying to console Rice after the first goal yesterday. According to some on here, Antonio was the only other one to go up to him. Is this true? You'd expect the captain of the team to be the first to him surely?
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby ageing hammer on Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:32 pm

Skandi Brudson wrote:TV showed Hart trying to console Rice after the first goal yesterday. According to some on here, Antonio was the only other one to go up to him. Is this true? You'd expect the captain of the team to be the first to him surely?


He was too far away for him to reach, can't run that far anymore.
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby Skandi Brudson on Sun Aug 27, 2017 5:42 pm

:D he may be a local and all but he's one ordinary footballer.

I would have assumed he'd have tried to lift Rice after the error. Perhaps he did.
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Re: Mark Noble - West Ham Legend

Postby Puff Daddy on Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:22 am

I reckon he would fit in well at somewhere like Southend
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