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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby Nesticles on Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:43 am

Did any anti-GSB banners/flags that were being mentioned make it into the ground on Monday?
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby Hammer.CA on Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:43 am

Nesticles wrote:Did any anti-GSB banners/flags that were being mentioned make it into the ground on Monday?


Some ABGSB scarves certainly did, I've sold about 70 so far, sold 3 the other night before they were confiscated by 2 Newham Council licensing officers and 2 plain clothes cops.
I don't think the gentlemen were available when the travellers were leaving the place next door like the local tip, savage cuts.
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby Kennet on Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:06 am

Just going to leave this here as after reading it really drives home the fact that they are in it for themselves rather than all the tripe they roll out time and time again...


http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41249300" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby Aceface on Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:08 am

Slightly baffled by the trial balloons to media this week that we're interested in going back for Carvalho in January.

If they couldn't (or didnt want to) do it a week ago, why would they want to (or be able to) do it in a few month's time?
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby Albie Beck on Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:17 am

Aceface wrote:Slightly baffled by the trial balloons to media this week that we're interested in going back for Carvalho in January.

If they couldn't (or didnt want to) do it a week ago, why would they want to (or be able to) do it in a few month's time?

One thing's for sure Ace, he won't be cheaper. So if according to the manager "...it [the failure] was about the money" then we probably should get ready for another gallant failure.
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby Sauce! on Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:24 am

Kennet wrote:Just going to leave this here as after reading it really drives home the fact that they are in it for themselves rather than all the tripe they roll out time and time again...


http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41249300" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


That is really sad, but I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make here. :eh:
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby LincolnshireHammer on Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:32 am

Kennet wrote:Just going to leave this here as after reading it really drives home the fact that they are in it for themselves rather than all the tripe they roll out time and time again...


http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41249300" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No mention of WHU whatsoever.

What's your point fella?
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby mushy on Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:52 am

Albie Beck wrote:One thing's for sure Ace, he won't be cheaper. So if according to the manager "...it [the failure] was about the money" then we probably should get ready for another gallant failure.

I reckon that's the boards thinking, that he will be cheaper and they will be more desperate to sell, that's Sullys MO, if he can knock 10 bob off the price then he is happy.
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby Mega Ron on Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:13 am

Aceface wrote:Slightly baffled by the trial balloons to media this week that we're interested in going back for Carvalho in January.

If they couldn't (or didnt want to) do it a week ago, why would they want to (or be able to) do it in a few month's time?


We could pay more money in total and more money up front in order to have Sporting drop any tapping up case.
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby Kennet on Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:32 am

OK so maybe a little bit of a stretch, but I was commenting on a person who has shown true 'love' for a club and their stewardship of it, as he sees himself, even before the situation he is in, as a part of a greater whole and is looking to leave a legacy for the club and fans. For me is struck a note compared to absolute tripe we are fed by GSB.

So no mention of WHU but about football and people, to me this struck a note as that is what nearly every thread commenting about the move, money and the board is, to me, ultimately saying, the connection has gone.
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby Ben on Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:13 pm

mushy wrote:I reckon that's the boards thinking, that he will be cheaper and they will be more desperate to sell, that's Sullys MO, if he can knock 10 bob off the price then he is happy.

But Sully reminds us every year, there is no value in January
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby HamburgHammer on Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:58 pm

There will be more excuses, half-truths and lies why we couldn't bring in players in January as the board kept reminding us in the past that you rarely do value for money deals in January anway.

I reckon the number of fans who are likely to believe their excuses for not spending money is going down at breakneck speed at the moment. Finally they have been sussed out by a majority of fans AND the media too, so things can only get more uncomfortable for them from now on.

I also doubt the old “blame and sack the manager“ trick is going to work for much longer...
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby Fishdo on Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:30 pm

There seems to be a build up of reports over the last week saying we are going back in for him in January...

I ain't sure if that's coming from the club as reports suggest or if it has come from the player as he has been quoted as saying he is still keen to come to us..

If it proves to be from the club then I can only think it's a ruse because at the moment I reckon the board don't see Slav being here in January and certainly don't want to spend the money on Slavs choices at moment (which is a known and well reported situation)

It could be they want to keep the situation between both clubs quiet after all the hoo-ha and/or it's a carrot for us as supporters and Slav to sort of give the impression we were trying when we first approached Carvalho agent and it's not true that the board had no intention of buying him..

Then there is also this story about us being offered Schurrle on dead line day or just before it.... though I ain't sure why Sully didn't mention that either at the time as I'm sure he would of taken the opportunity if he could..?


I am still so surprised that none of our owners have said nothing after the game.... some supporters they are!!
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby Ozza on Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:10 pm

Ben wrote:But Sully reminds us every year, there is no value in January


Well he's got a bloody good point after our dealings last Jan
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby simonirons on Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:18 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if we went back in for him in Jan and signed him (albeit for less then the summers asking price) - skull looks like the kind of man who hates all the sick he's started to get & would love to silence his critics.
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby Fishdo on Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:07 pm

simonirons wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if we went back in for him in Jan and signed him (albeit for less then the summers asking price) - skull looks like the kind of man who hates all the sick he's started to get & would love to silence his critics.


Sully will keep that ball rolling still January I'm sure.... but come January

1) He was keen on getting him but now Slav has gone it was the new managers decision to wait till the summer

2) he was keen on getting him but Sporting Lisbon proved to be to difficult to negotiate with given what's happened...

3) he was keen to get him but the asking price was just too high and proves the January window is a bad time to get good value.

4) he was keen to get him but the players agent was demanding too high fees.

5) he was keen to get him but while he was on a Xmas break in Marbella he couldn't get to his phone in time and his message service isn't operable when he is outside the UK

6) he was keen to get him but given the current libel case his lawyers advised him not to contact anyone at the club until the 'case' is decided in 2021
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby bubbles1966 on Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:32 pm

Aceface wrote:Slightly baffled by the trial balloons to media this week that we're interested in going back for Carvalho in January.

If they couldn't (or didnt want to) do it a week ago, why would they want to (or be able to) do it in a few month's time?


It's become a matter of personal reputation again.

They shut up for most of this summer because they got slaughtered for not walking the talk last year.

When they netted Hart, Zaba, Hernandez and Arnie it looked like they really had turned a corner - but their sensitivity to criticism from places like this led to that daft transfer review statement.

If they'd toned it down, not said anything that could be perceived as unsupportive of Slaven and then we'd got the 2-0 they'd be off the hook - but they couldn't help rising to the bait.
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby DaveWHU1964 on Thu Sep 14, 2017 10:51 pm

I think Mega Ron may well have it right re Cavalho. Reminds me of the 'dealings' we had with his French club prior to signing Sakho.
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby Fishdo on Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:08 pm

I read on TS today that A Bola from SL has said it will cost us €40 million to sign him in January...

If Sully does try to buy him because he believes it might restore him some of his damaged reputation then he's going to have to pay through the nose for it.... even if it don't reach as high as that..

Regardless though given we only went to his agent with 23 million I can't see that happening at all ... Sully would rather pay the million comp money to Slav and start the spin all over again with a new manager...
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Re: Gold and Sullivan ???

Postby RM9 on Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:25 pm

So the final vote is in on twitter. The first 300 votes went 90/10 and then a lot more pro board votes came in. We can't determine the demographic of the voters, many may have not been West Ham fans.

The final result out of 525 votes was 76/24 in favour of them ****ing off. Thanks to everyone that voted, I'm not entirely sure what it can achieve, but it certainly sends them a direct message that they're not wanted by the majority of a small straw poll.
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