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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby bubbles500 on Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:45 pm

Tbh why on earth would they sell unless it’s a crazy offer.As long as the new TV deal is similar or price of club will only go up.Plus they are making £5m a year on interest.And if they keep net spend at £10-20m a year they can probably pocket £20-30m a year for basically doing **** all.
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby Czech Hammer on Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:01 am

HamburgHammer wrote:Didn't you hear ? Gold and Sullivan want to remain on the board and keep their seats in the Directors Box even after a takeover. On what grounds only they will know... :lol:


The new owners might fancy a couple of lifelike gnomes for outside the directors lounge.
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby noblecause on Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:13 am

bubbles500 wrote:Tbh why on earth would they sell unless it’s a crazy offer.As long as the new TV deal is similar or price of club will only go up.Plus they are making £5m a year on interest.And if they keep net spend at £10-20m a year they can probably pocket £20-30m a year for basically doing **** all.


Perhaps it's that they know that their gambling of a low net spend and constant undermining of managers will only keep them in the Premier League for so long. IF we get relegated again (not beyond the realms of reality) they will be too old and toothless to get us back up, thus sending us the way of Birmingham, Forest, Leeds, Portsmouth etc, plus the club will be worthless to any potential buyer.

Don't be surprised if they sell us to Kim Jong IL
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby Samba on Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:35 am

noblecause wrote:Don't be surprised if they sell us to Kim Jong IL


I hope not mate, he's dead...
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby Doc H Ball on Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:54 am

Samba wrote:
I hope not mate, he's dead...


Not quite - he was made Eternal Leader.
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby Ding on Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:09 am

Now, if one was looking to buy a football club, one would first look at the fanbase. West Ham and Newcastle continue to lead the league attendance table, both with over 99.8% attendance after 7 rounds of league matches. Both do so despite struggling for results. Not hard to see the possibilities if money were poured into these clubs and they are installed with proper management.

Both clubs represent hidden value. Stuff of dreams for buyout guys.

So. Is it Newcastle or Us? Staveley was seen at Newcastle. But to be this public is not her normal (extremely low profile) style so I reckon that's a red herring. Smith buying 10% of WHFC, however, is real. This is where one should focus.

Clock is ticking, I reckon.

Attendance figures link: http://www.insideworldfootball.com/2017 ... old-games/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby bubbles500 on Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:51 am

Haha are you kidding ,did you see the empty seats for Swansea.Its clear our attendance figures are complete lies with a view to eventual sale.The more realistic average home gate is about 45-50k.Another poor season and they will seriously struggle to sell 52k next season.I guess they aren’t complete idiots and now realise we are in a 13 team league(Everton will get their **** together or spend more).A 13 team league with 3 relegation places with most teams on a par standard wise ,and the odds are unless you invest decently as some point with in 5 years you are likely to go down.And then it’s a lottery to get back up.And that’s only get harder if the likes of Villa wolves Leeds come up in the next 2 or 3 years.If their intent is minimal investment to stay up,it’s a precarious tightrope.I think the next managerial appointment will show their intent.If it’s not an ancelloti or a Rafa and more a Marco silva then the intent to just stay up is pretty clear.
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby westham,eggyandchips on Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:36 am

Its the international break........time to bump the Investment thread!!!! :lol:
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby the pink palermo on Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:11 am

Football clubs used to be about local communities , none more so than our club .

Am I the only one highly concerned at who ends up owning the club ? I desperately want rid of Sullivan - I think he's turned out to be a dreadful owner , and I'm not referencing Venkys here either , the usual "go to" panto villains when club ownership discussions take place .

Have a read of Amy Lawrences excellent piece in the Guardian for the current goings on over there .

£28,000 a share

Kronkes attempt to buy out Usmanov suggest a valuation in excess of £1.7bn with Usmanov being offered £525m for his shares .

None of that money goes into Arsenal FC , not a penny . None of it stays in the game .

Hopefully Usmanov , as a condition of sale, will ask silent Stan to explain what his vision for that club is, what he intends when he essentially takes it private and what safeguards will be put in place to ensure the club remains at the heart of their community .

The same applies to WHU when Sullivan cashes his chips in .

Personally I think it's high time the Government had a look at football club ownership in real detail .
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby hxhammer on Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:41 am

Maybe that nice Mr Usmanov would like to invest some of his windfall over Stratford way, i'd have him over the goons we have right now

Football as we know and loved it has been f*cked for years
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby szola on Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:16 am

As long as football is a commercial venture, with entertainment as its core, on what grounds should they be treated differently than any other commerical venture with an entertainment element?

Sports, just as any other institutions that have stood the test of time, have been through several phases of raison d'etre. From social cohesion, divine worship, political tool or business ventures, all have been 'what sport' is about.

Equalling the playing field is imo the only serious initiative that should be taken.
The money made from broadcasting, league sponsors, European cups, etc. should be redistribuated to all levels of football. That would eliminate the likes of Sullivan, make the league more competitive and grassroot football (lower leagues) a breeding ground for talent instead of the quasi-progression made through endless loans.
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby Coops on Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:30 am

szola wrote:As long as football is a commercial venture, with entertainment as its core, on what grounds should they be treated differently than any other commerical venture with an entertainment element?

Sports, just as any other institutions that have stood the test of time, have been through several phases of raison d'etre. From social cohesion, divine worship, political tool or business ventures, all have been 'what sport' is about.

Equalling the playing field is imo the only serious initiative that should be taken.
The money made from broadcasting, league sponsors, European cups, etc. should be redistribuated to all levels of football. That would eliminate the likes of Sullivan, make the league more competitive and grassroot football (lower leagues) a breeding ground for talent instead of the quasi-progression made through endless loans.


This is obviously true, unfortunately those with the power to make said changes have a vested interest in keeping the status quo.
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby Wembley1966 on Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:15 am

^^^ But they don't want to keep the status quo - the top 6 want a greater share of TV revenues:

Premier League boss Richard Scudamore has embarked on a week of lobbying in a bid to heal a split between clubs over the distribution of the next round of multi-billion pound overseas TV rights.

It comes ahead of a meeting of all 20 clubs next Wednesday [today] in London.

Under pressure from the six richest clubs, the chairman has proposed ending the equal sharing of international broadcasting income.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41431359

http://www.reuters.com/article/soccer-england-finance/soccer-smaller-premier-league-clubs-to-argue-for-balance-in-tv-cash-split-idUSL8N1ME1DR
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby Tenbury on Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:33 am

A European superleague must come.It'd make no difference to many of the big 6 as half their home crowds fly in to see them anyway.Thanks to QueasyJet and Pirate Paddy home based fans wouldn't pay that much more to go away than were they to take a train to Newcastle.
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby Corney Beal on Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:39 am

.........and we voted on favour of it.
Would there be any logical reason to vote for this unless we expected to be 'a top 6 club' soon??
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby taffhammer on Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:54 am

Corney Beal wrote:.........and we voted on favour of it.
Would there be any logical reason to vote for this unless we expected to be 'a top 6 club' soon??


Because when the top 5 leave ( no way spuds should be in there ) and take their money with them all the teams left will have over invested and be screwed when the tv money drops.
Luckily we have owners who have only spent 4 million in the last 15 years. Its been their master plan all along.
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby bristolhammerfc on Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:03 am

Tenbury wrote:A European superleague must come.It'd make no difference to many of the big 6 as half their home crowds fly in to see them anyway.Thanks to QueasyJet and Pirate Paddy home based fans wouldn't pay that much more to go away than were they to take a train to Newcastle.


Real Madrid are bricking it in case Barcelona pull out of the league. Ironically they have privately supported Barcelona and are doing all they can to keep them in the league. Barcelona are threatening to become 'stateless' and set up the new European super league with no reference to the Spanish league.

It has been mooted that Barcelona leaving will cause the collapse of TV revenues for La liga and hit attendances hard.
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby Mega Ron on Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:21 am

If the 'top 6' leave the premier league I think they will suffer as a result.
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby ludo22 on Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:30 am

Mega Ron wrote:If the 'top 6' leave the premier league I think they will suffer as a result.


Especially when they get battered every week in the Superleague.Going to The Emirates to watch Arsenal humiliated by Barcelona,Bayern,PSG etc won't please their fanbase.
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Re: Investment Rumours Thread

Postby Mega Ron on Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:33 am

The Premier League is the league that is most popular, and richest, for a reason. It's the most exciting league to watch.

The 'big 6' would be crazy to leave what has made their brands.
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