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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby Westbourne Bill on Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:26 am

Anyone who says Joe Hart would be an upgrade needs to see the two howlers he made yesterday vs Inter.
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby Ted Fenton on Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:39 am

Unless Bilic and Adrian can get down off their respective high horses, Adrian will be gone this summer. Seems he's already hoping for a move back to Spain (that's just local talk, no firm quotes).
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby fmgod on Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:01 am

Outside shot to Palace if Mandanda goes back to France I reckon. Still think he should be our number one, yeah he dipped in form a bit but Randolph to me is a Championship keeper who has somehow turned into our number one
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby FrostyLemon on Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:14 am

Where has all this talk of Adrian being average come from? I could have sworn for the last few years everyone thought he was great. This year he started off wobbly and when he got dropped I understood the reasons why, but I honestly thought he was going to be put back in goal aftera few matches. I don't think Randolph is anywhere near his ability.

The thing that I find most strange is that when Bilic started, I could have sworn he mentioned that Adrian was one of the few players in the squad who could play champions league football. Why has he changed his mind?

Edit: I can't find the article but I could have sworn it had been said.
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby thejackhammer on Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:16 am

It just has to be contract based, Randolph is near useless. Covered up by the odd wonder save.

He may not be eccentric and make obvious mistakes but just have a look of a replay of basically any goal we concede, if you don't find yourself thinking 'He probably should have done better there' then you're lying to yourself
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby FrostyLemon on Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:43 am

So am I right in thinking Adrian was dropped after this article was published?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... stake.html
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby hammerman11 on Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:43 am

Adrian needs to start at Hull. Randolph makes too many errors or just doesnot do enough.

adrian back in with 3 at the back and wingbacks.
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby e17 on Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:06 am

Jumby wrote:Adrian got called up for Spain back at the end of the summer, he's above average.

This & the previous 2 years of watching them both in the flesh at our place is why I'm bemused by some on here claiming Randolph & Adrian are the same quality - Not on their best days they aint

Randolph has done far better than I expected, but I'm genuinely shocked that Adrian has been on the bench for as long as he has - The goals against tally between them must be miles apart
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby psychoscoredthelot on Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:11 am

needs to be starting again in my opinion
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby Nesticles on Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:14 am

I believe Randolph was due his chance

He had been very good when called upon in cup games and league games where Adrian was suspended/injured

His chance came, and it's not worked out for him (not that it's particularly worked out for many of ours this season)

Overall, it's a position we could do with strengthening this summer
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby djclipz on Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:15 am

You can swap the goalie all you like but until we sort the defence out, not a lot will change. The back line changes every couple of weeks due to injuries, we still don't have a right back, cresswell has struggled etc etc. Been covered many times before.
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby YorksHammer on Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:27 am

thejackhammer wrote:It just has to be contract based, Randolph is near useless. Covered up by the odd wonder save.

He may not be eccentric and make obvious mistakes but just have a look of a replay of basically any goal we concede, if you don't find yourself thinking 'He probably should have done better there' then you're lying to yourself


Every goal on Saturday I thought this. There's nothing that Randolph has done this season that I don't think Adrian is capable of matching (including the Henderson save) and I think he's far better at coming and claiming the ball than Randolph which gives him an edge.

Neither are the most commanding of keepers, and I think that would be an area either could be usurped in by someone new coming in.
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby fredjstanley on Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:41 am

djclipz wrote:You can swap the goalie all you like but until we sort the defence out, not a lot will change. The back line changes every couple of weeks due to injuries, we still don't have a right back, cresswell has struggled etc etc. Been covered many times before.


Completely agree with this. While I think Adrian is better than Randolph, switching between the two with our current defensive set up is like shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic.
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby Jumby on Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:10 pm

I said a year ago that Randy was decent enough but I always felt like he conceded goals that he probably should have been saving, nothing has changed.

Adrian has always been our best keeper since he arrived here, when he makes a mistake people go mad but for years I've watched Petr Cech make mistake after mistake, absolute howlers, and he seems to be viewed as one of the best around still, even on Saturday he was cocking up on a corner, caught in no mans land, and it wasn't even mentioned.

A year ago I wouldn't have sold big Aidy for 20m, now it looks like we're going to lose him for nothing whilst being stuck with a keeper who is really a top level Championship keeper, nothing more.
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby smuts on Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:09 pm

FrostyLemon wrote:So am I right in thinking Adrian was dropped after this article was published?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... stake.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Yep...."He is my number one for sure"...... :eh:
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby Andytheammer on Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:21 pm

djclipz wrote:You can swap the goalie all you like but until we sort the defence out, not a lot will change. The back line changes every couple of weeks due to injuries, we still don't have a right back, cresswell has struggled etc etc. Been covered many times before.


Is the correct answer.
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby hammerman11 on Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:04 am

Adrian to be the number one until end of season. Randy doesnt do enough with the goals he concedes. Adrian dropped for howlers but randolph makes mistakes but not the howers. Hopefully adrian has learnt.

The defence for both has been a shambles that is for sure and even de gea would struggle.

my back line would be

adrian
byram kouyate fonte masuaka

also need some discipline in midfiled to offer protection. again we fail here !

Hart is not the answer though. High fee and wages not much better. Bergovic cheaper and just a good is maybe an option. I would then sell Randolph, Irelands number 1, for 8m if possible.
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby Westbourne Bill on Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:46 am

This is bizarre....an Adrian fan in the Rooney home

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-n ... o-10065841" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Perhaps Wayne's on his way to E20.
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby OFT on Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:02 am

Westbourne Bill wrote:This is bizarre....an Adrian fan in the Rooney home

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-n ... o-10065841" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


How very odd, perhaps it's the penalty thing v Everton
One thing I noticed, the youngest one has got his Dads hair :)
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Re: Adrián San Miguel del Castillo

Postby YorksHammer on Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:54 am

Can the kid play right back?
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