The 2016 summer transfer thread
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Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
And I share the same concerns over his fitness, but as backup full back amongst others I think he's worth having still. I'll leave it up to the Club and medical staff to decide whether it's worth allowing him to leave if his fitness is too much to manage anymore as a content backup option more than happy to continue doing what he does in this role.
I also don't need to check Cresswells game in a couple of games as I'm fully aware he does make some mistakes from time to time, but in the same token I could showcase endless highlights of the qualities he does possess for the majority of the season, so no point doing that. He's one of the least of our worries. Jenkinson, now there was a full back liability, and thankfully the manager and Club had already identified that as a real weakness and acted just before he got his season ending injury.
I also don't need to check Cresswells game in a couple of games as I'm fully aware he does make some mistakes from time to time, but in the same token I could showcase endless highlights of the qualities he does possess for the majority of the season, so no point doing that. He's one of the least of our worries. Jenkinson, now there was a full back liability, and thankfully the manager and Club had already identified that as a real weakness and acted just before he got his season ending injury.
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Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
I don't suppose you would watch the highlights reel of goals conceded last year either, would you? The one with everything going between Reid and Cresswell.
Jenkinson has lost form this year, for sure - but whataboutery isn't much of an argument.
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Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
Bubbs, 75 and Colours - good posts that prove one way or another how far we've come since promotion and through to relative mid-table stability under Sam.
Chelsea downing tools under Jose or Leicester clearly demonstrates player power and that money only get's you so much. Under Bilic our stature has grown.
The Dave's have done their bit as has our scouting team (Samuelsen, Payet, Lanzini, etc..) it's been a while since we landed a dud.
As it stands - clearly we need the headline front-man first and foremost - Suarez made a mid table Liverpool title challengers - the problem is finding one that you can get more than half a season out of. Emineke could shine - who knows?
Then maybe the Croatian wonder kid Hallionvic (sp) winger/forward, Tore (based on what I've read on here) would be about it.
Send back the loans that don't work out and after that we've Oxford, Cullen, Samuelsen, Henry pretty close to first team - so anyone else coming in needs to be a proper upgrade/game-changer or why bother.
Chelsea downing tools under Jose or Leicester clearly demonstrates player power and that money only get's you so much. Under Bilic our stature has grown.
The Dave's have done their bit as has our scouting team (Samuelsen, Payet, Lanzini, etc..) it's been a while since we landed a dud.
As it stands - clearly we need the headline front-man first and foremost - Suarez made a mid table Liverpool title challengers - the problem is finding one that you can get more than half a season out of. Emineke could shine - who knows?
Then maybe the Croatian wonder kid Hallionvic (sp) winger/forward, Tore (based on what I've read on here) would be about it.
Send back the loans that don't work out and after that we've Oxford, Cullen, Samuelsen, Henry pretty close to first team - so anyone else coming in needs to be a proper upgrade/game-changer or why bother.
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Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
I don't need too because I remember most of our mistakes and none of which I deny. That's why I don't need to re-watch what I already know or acknowledge again that he makes mistakes from time to time when I've already said so just now. The point is, he does much more good than he does making some mistakes.
It's certainly nothing to be concerned about, nor are the management thinking of an immediate upgrade or equal to him, preferring to focus our attentions to where we truly need imporvements in the squad and I can understand why.
It's certainly nothing to be concerned about, nor are the management thinking of an immediate upgrade or equal to him, preferring to focus our attentions to where we truly need imporvements in the squad and I can understand why.
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Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
Bony is 27 , Benteke 25 , Batman 22 .bubbles1966 wrote:
The one thing with Bony is his age. He's 28.
Benteke and Batshauyi are both a bit younger.
Agree that a utility FB is a solution if we aren't in Europe. If we make Europe we'll need two teams.
Much as I'm loathe to acknowledge it, Tottenham have it about right currently. They don't do 'makeshift' or 'he's always injured, but we'll bank on him' much at all.
Neither did Chelsea and Man City when they were on it a couple of years ago.
We stand a chance of buying the first 2 but not the Marseilles player .
Bony would suit our style of play more than Benteke but whether we would bid as high as Man City would want I wouldn't know - everything will depend on Guardiola , clean sheet and all that .
Our Owners may prefer to spend less and settle for a player like Gignac for a season or 2 , Payet and Gignac would do ok for less and then we could concentrate on the fullback positions .
We'll see I suppose .
Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
How did Jack Grealish go from having England and Ireland fighting over him, to not making the Villa first team. Maybe an attitude problem?
Even so, and I know we're not short of midfielders, I'd snap him up once Villa are relegated if the price is right.
Even so, and I know we're not short of midfielders, I'd snap him up once Villa are relegated if the price is right.
Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
With regards to RB, Doneil Henry recently played there for Canada in a friendly.
In no way should he be considered as back-up cover. JOB is miles ahead.
In no way should he be considered as back-up cover. JOB is miles ahead.
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Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
Ain't he been caught out getting shitfaced on more then one occasion?IG8Hammer wrote:Jack Grealish - Maybe an attitude problem?
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Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
Batshuayi only signed the new contract at Marseille because of the promise he will be sold in the summer, if a club offers the money Marseille want. (20 - 25 million Euro's)We stand a chance of buying the first 2 but not the Marseilles player .
He wanted to leave already, the club kept him there till the summer with this new contract ... thats whats said in Belgium.
He already stated he wants to become a PL player, and if you ask him who was the best player he ever played with his answer is Payet (they are real friends). If we want him I think we have a great chance to do so.
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Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
You may be right , I really hope you are - however The Independent recently went with ' Michy Batshuayi in advanced talks with Tottenham Hotspur ...' - friends or not I would bet that Mr Batshuayi values his career more than his friendship - It will depend on the level of outside investment next season [ and yeah I haven't forgotten Jinxed's story ] .djoe wrote: He already stated he wants to become a PL player, and if you ask him who was the best player he ever played with his answer is Payet (they are real friends). If we want him I think we have a great chance to do so.
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Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
I think there has been a real shift in policy to quality over quantity.
I think that may spell the end of the line for JOB, Collins, Carroll and Valencia.
I think that may spell the end of the line for JOB, Collins, Carroll and Valencia.
Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
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Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
Watching yesterday's game and the powderpuff forward line we have at the moment, we need a real off the shoulder striker with a bit of craft and strength about them.
Valencia is quick but can't read the game and falls over at the suggestion of a small breeze, Carroll is strong but inconsistent and Sakho drifts in and out of the game too often and gets isolated playing on his own.
Valencia is quick but can't read the game and falls over at the suggestion of a small breeze, Carroll is strong but inconsistent and Sakho drifts in and out of the game too often and gets isolated playing on his own.
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Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
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I think that may spell the end of the line for JOB, Collins, Carroll and Valencia.
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Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
With Villa all but gone, is there anyone in that squad worth a punt on? Grealish is the only one I can think of, maybe Gabby at a decent price?
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Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
bristolhammerfc wrote:Watching yesterday's game and the powderpuff forward line we have at the moment, we need a real off the shoulder striker with a bit of craft and strength about them.
Valencia is quick but can't read the game and falls over at the suggestion of a small breeze, Carroll is strong but inconsistent and Sakho drifts in and out of the game too often and gets isolated playing on his own.
I'm in complete agreement with you and I posted something similar in the ' Mid Term Report ' thread - watching the Chelsea game yesterday I cast envious eyes on Diego Costa and his ability to hold up play until his team mates caught up - We pass the ball up to Valencia and it comes back off his shins , the sad thing is you can tell by his face that he knows he's poor at this particular aspect of the game - Sakho is only marginally better , Carroll's ok but lacks Valencia's mobility .
I realise that every Club is looking for this type of striker and I realise they come at a premium rate when fully developed - it remains to be seen whether we go for the ' real deal ' or we buy a player we think will develop into the ' real deal ' .
For what it's worth I think Islam Slimani is the player we need .
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Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
Yes, Scott Sinclair. I think he has talent and Slav could bring it outRayleighIrons wrote:With Villa all but gone, is there anyone in that squad worth a punt on? Grealish is the only one I can think of, maybe Gabby at a decent price?
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Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
bristolhammerfc wrote:I think there has been a real shift in policy to quality over quantity.
They've been able to because after Grant's disastrous tenure left us with such an awful, dis-jointed, pathetic squad we needed quantity just to begin to function as a team/ squad should. Money had to be spread thinly, too thinly for comfort. In any case quality such as Payet, Lanzini and co wouldn't have entertained us an option.
I think that may spell the end of the line for JOB, Collins, Carroll and Valencia.
Decent/ good players such as these now being (possibly) being the next batch to be replaced is testament to how far we've come. Their replacements will be of the quality that you speak of, they need to be to be a step up on some of the names that you mention there..
One other thing - and something I've mentioned before - the age demographic is entirely different to what we've seen over much of the last ten years. It's far younger, so huge amounts of players don't have to be replaced every season. Therefore the money we have (which is increasing in any case) can be concentrated on fewer players - so the quality should improve again.
All good.
Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
RayleighIrons wrote:With Villa all but gone, is there anyone in that squad worth a punt on? Grealish is the only one I can think of, maybe Gabby at a decent price?
Carles Gil and (elbows aside) Jordan Ayew.
Re: A £20 million plus striker: The summer transfer thread
For me their stand out player has been Idrissa Gueye in defensive midfield, could be an alternative to Song.RayleighIrons wrote:With Villa all but gone, is there anyone in that squad worth a punt on? Grealish is the only one I can think of, maybe Gabby at a decent price?
Jordan Amavi was looking quite handy at left back until he did his knee in.
Otherwise they all look a bit crap.