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David Edmonds, the former LLDC chairman, revealed: "West Ham were very tough, very hard negotiators. If you only have one person to take the deal or not you tend to make compromises.
Didn’t diddy Dave just tell WHUISA that spurs were waiting in the wings to swoop in if we couldn’t make it work?
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An extract taken from the Mail about extending Anfield

'At one stage, the plan in the boardroom was to monitor the performance of the Main Stand, and bank the additional income, before turning attention to the Anfield Road End.

However, the roaring success of the extension, which raised the capacity by around 8,500 seats to 54,074, has speeded up the process.

The £12m extra it generated took Liverpool’s matchday revenue to £74m, according to their accounts for the financial year up to May 2017 - a season without the additional income European football brings.'

What was the move worth to us a season?
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That’s the ironic thing. They could have got a good finance deal extended UP and actually be making more revenue than they are now. And if had a decent team on the pitch could have increased prices inline with Arsenal and Spurs. They thought they were being clever, but ultimately they took the wrong option. It’s like anything in life, if you take the easy option invariable it will be flawed. Levy saw the bigger picture and did it the right way and ultimately will sell spurs for £2bn make an absolute fortune while our lot will be tied up in legal battles for years to come probably playing championship football. They really are the only fools and horses of football.
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bubbles500 wrote:They really are the only fools and horses of football.
"SULLY, YOU 24 CARAT PLONKER"!
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Not sure if this has been posted of not but @westhamfootball on Twitter just posted this link.

Its all of the communication between Brady and Khan and is available under the Freedom Of Information act!

https://www.london.gov.uk/about-us/gove ... ham-united" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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She sounds desperate in those letters. As does the club.
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just looking through it, certainly enjoying the contradicting fellatio she gives the wonderful iconic stadium and the absolute stench of buyers (renters?) remorse that the whole thing is dripping in.

what is fairly astonishing is that brady repeatedly attempts to play the desperation card as a negotiating tactic, admitting that we "burned our bridges" with demolishing the boleyn and attempting to gain leverage due to the fact we have no option to fall back on. would've thought a hardened business mind would know better than that.

everything else leans on that magical £4bn figure that comes from the premier league. hitching her wagon to a car that might just drive off without her in may.

this club really is a perfect storm of incompetence and greed.
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Would you be happy with the ground if the stands were closer to the pitch and West Ham owned it?

That's the only way the ground will ever be a success.
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Hammer.CA wrote:An extract taken from the Mail about extending Anfield

'At one stage, the plan in the boardroom was to monitor the performance of the Main Stand, and bank the additional income, before turning attention to the Anfield Road End.

However, the roaring success of the extension, which raised the capacity by around 8,500 seats to 54,074, has speeded up the process.

The £12m extra it generated took Liverpool’s matchday revenue to £74m, according to their accounts for the financial year up to May 2017 - a season without the additional income European football brings.'


What was the move worth to us a season?
It'll be worth a lot more this season. Bearing in mind in 15/16 in old stand they played the maximum number of cup games (Europa League finalists and League Cup finalists, plus FA Cup games) and last season with the new stand they were out of Europe so far fewer home games.

Comparing 15/16 figures to this season that figure will be double that £12m extra in matchday income with the CL campaign. That £12m extra was in a bad year. That's just for one stand. This is where we really screwed ourselves over. All that upheavel for an extra 10 million a year at most. A new stand at Upton Park would have been worth most of that.
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Would have been an interesting conversation after this was discovered!

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"Sadiz" certainly isnt in any hurry to meet her or watch football at the stadium is he?

I can understand that. Who would be.
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At least we now know how she earns her money. Stand down lads.
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From that lot

The best thing is to qoute them from after leaving the Boleyn ground all through till Sullivan’s disastrous interview in the papers before Christmas 2017

They can slag off others all they like but in the 18 months before then they pdddled more positive **** about that dump of a stadium than anyone else

Change your tune by all means but do not contradict yourself as these mugs do constantly
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Martin Samuel in today's Mail,

Make Hammers feel at home or lose legacy of London 2012
Drip by drip, the truth is emerging about the London Stadium, the incompetence, the cost and the reality of Britain's Olympic legacy. The London Assembly budget monitoring committee heard this week that mistakes were made around the installation of the retractable seats.

'There is no suggestion we were negligent, but clearly we did get it wrong,' said David Edmonds, former chairman of the London Legacy Development Corporation. The cost of this not at all negligent mistake? Roughly £8million annually, when the seats need to be taken out for athletics and put back for the new football season.

Neale Coleman, the LLDC's former vice-chairman, said that in retrospect the model used in Manchester after the Commonwealth Games - when the stadium was passed to Manchester City and converted for football purposes - would have been better.

The incompetence, the cost and the reality of the London Stadium legacy is ever-emerging

Thank the brains trust of Tessa Jowell, Ken Livingstone and Lord Coe for that - they were the ones who insisted on an Olympic legacy and would not entertain the idea of a solely football-driven takeover. Yet football is the only sport that could consistently fill the stadium and make it viable - and even that future is threatened with stadium operator E20 making the place so inhospitable for West Ham and its fans.

And now to the final point. Edmonds admitted that the reason West Ham got such a good financial deal on the stadium was that they were the only game in town by the time it came to negotiations. Tottenham's proposal had been rejected; Leyton Orient's interest was a myth. It was West Ham, or nothing. West Ham, or empty.

The whole process has been an utter shambles and unless E20 start to make the place feel more like home for its anchor tenants, what tiny legacy remains could be lost. The politics needs to stop and the constructive solutions need to start. This is a national scandal and the size and scale of it is only just emerging.

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martin Samuel's article is exactly right, it's pretty much the same story as the millennium dome. Changing goverments, unrealistic ideas and eventually virtually given away to a company who have the right product (gig venue for the O2, football for the OS) to make successful. The press now appear to be onside because that's the prevailing wind at the moment. They generally follow rather than lead opinion, so it may not last
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Mr_Skid wrote:Not sure if this has been posted of not but @westhamfootball on Twitter just posted this link.

Its all of the communication between Brady and Khan and is available under the Freedom Of Information act!

https://www.london.gov.uk/about-us/gove ... ham-united" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Brady: London Living Wage for Full Time and Part Time Staff since June 1 2015

Not quite, missing the details that Part Time Matchday staff did NOT get London Living Wage

Another Lie, not telling the truth or leaving something out !!
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So, according to Martin Samuels it's all E20's fault and they should spend even more public money to
make an athletics stadium a bit lest schit for football? Meanwhile G&S, who screwed the LLDC into the
ground over the deal, get the fans off their back (a bit) and go on to make even more money without spending any?
I don't see that happening any time soon..
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What Martin Samuels fails to acknowledge is that E20 are the landlords, they offered Ms Brady a tenancy agreement which she signed, if they don't make Ms Brady happy then like any tenant she has the option to move out .... but where will she find another 60,000 stadium for 2.5m a year?

Now most tenants in this position would try and come to an arrangement with their landlord, but not Ms Brady she starts multiple lawsuits instead ....

With no real short term alternative we have to make the OS work, drop the feckin' court cases, agree to pay E20 a decent rent, and just make the best of what we have .....

Oh wait ... I forgot you're not in it for the good of the club, just the money ... carry on .....
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IronworksDave wrote:With no real short term alternative we have to make the OS work, drop the feckin' court cases, agree to pay E20 a decent rent, and just make the best of what we have ..... .
So you're advocating we roll over, give up what we are legally entitled to under the terms of the lease, pay more money (exactly how much do you think is a decent rent?) and not ask for any more changes.

Right oh.....
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