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I listened to the Man Utd Bournemouth match on the radio at work, and have just watched back on MOTD - the initial "stamp" by Mings doesn't look intentional to me to be honest, and I'm trying to be really subjective. No way should Ibra be on the pitch after that. Slags.
I'n not so sure. I think Mings tries to make contact with his head, then fair doos to Ibra for elbowing him, but both should have gone, not the unlucky Sermon who made a great tackle for his first yellow, then barely touched Ibra before he made the most of the tiny shove and fell over.
And the Bournemouth penalty was never a penalty. As much as i dislike Jones, he was nowhere near making contact with the attacker, until the attacker changed direction to make sure Jones caught him. The attacker should go for cheating.
In fact, if there's anything other than a natural occurrence of events the ref should ignore any appeal.
Jones is just a big clumsy oaf.
He dived in yesterday like he did at our gaff, like he does all the time.
The Man Utd v Bournemouth game was a shocking advert for football. Awful refereeing all round with some dreadful time wasting antics from Bournemouth in the second half. Regardless of it being against Manure, some of the flopping to the ground they did was just tedious. Turns out the refs in both the Man Utd and Swansea games were on a stag do together during the week just gone as well!
"The attacker should go for cheating" - If that were the case, Manchester United(under Mourinho) would finish most games with 5-6 players!
The Ibrah incident started with him stamping on Mings, he the retaliated with the stamp on the head and Ibrah finished it with the elbow - if you swap Ibrah for Carroll, he would have amassed 2 straight reds and 2 yellows for those incidents.If the PL are serious there should be 10 game bans for Mings and Ibrahimovic and a rescind for the Bournmouth player sent off!
I would not be surprised if Mourinho fines his players if they dont simulate injury after every contentious contact!!
Liverpool, and Suarez in particular, were very good at doing this a few seasons ago. Attacking player would flick up the ball at the defender as if to put it past him at waist height. More times than not, the ball would hit the defender's arm. More times than not, Liverpool got a penalty out of it. Remember one or two against us like that.
Watching it to me it looks like Zlatan trys to catch Mings first and also I don't think Mings actually means to catch Zlatan's head, think you can't ban him for that as there's no way of proving the intent with that, Zlatan's elbow complete different ball game.
Worst penalty in recent years in my mind was about six years ago, we was when then Rooney hit and he got a penalty for literally just kicking the ball at Upson's arm on the edge of the box.
Re Mings v Ibra.
Man U want the whole thing pushed away otherwise Ibra could well be looking at a 3 match ban.
If it wasn't for that they would be screaming the house down.
But the best thing about this - over looked by the pundits - is how Ibra was concentrating so hard on elbowing Mings that he actually threw a pretty good opportunity to win the match from that cross. Never mind!
The Mings one is hard to decide, i think he will get punished purely for the reason Ibra will definitely get a ban to avoid the extra publicity it will bring. In my opinion it was clumsy from Mings but im not convinced he actually meant it.
The Ref didn't see the Mings stamp, but saw the Ibra elbow, why would he be chatting with him otherwise? to not send him off after potentially seeing it happen, is well out of order.
He also witnessed Ibra throw a Bournemouth player to the ground (Mings again I think) And then absolutely **** himself when confronting him, to end up being told off by the player.
How can a player, no matter how high profile he is, be able to have that much influence over an official..
Was he intimidated?
This is also how I saw it. Mings was concentrating on the ball coming in and was stumbling backwards, he is a big clumsy oaf and if he was aiming for Ibrahimovic's head he'd have missed anyway.
If I was in Ibrahimovic's position, I would have retaliated as well. Would I have done it by throwing a cowardly elbow in Ming's face though? No. Pathetic from him and he deserves a lengthy ban.
I don't actually think he saw the elbow, I think what he did see was Mings on the floor, then Surman come over and shove Ibrahimovic.
This will be the sole reason the FA drop him to championship this weekend.
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