Refereeing Decisions 2016/17 and 2017/18

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Re: Refereeing Decisions 2016/17

Postby Jumby on Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:08 pm

Right, let's get one thing straight first, Mings did not stamp on Ibrahimovic's head, he jumped over him and at worst trod on the side of his head, causing minimal pain and discomfort, although I still firmly believe the whole thing was completely unintentional and I don't think Mings is that sort or person or player. 5 match ban.

Ibrahimovic deliberately swings his elbow with force into the face of Mings. Now that could have fractured an eye socket, cheekbone, knocked out teeth and there is absolutely no doubting that he meant it. 3 match ban.

Football is f**ked if it carries on this way.
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Re: Refereeing Decisions 2016/17

Postby beckton on Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:21 pm

fmgod wrote:So something that was accidental five games, a premidated disgusting elbow three games, logic, big club favoured again, if I was Mings and Bouremouth I'd be fuming as I think he would be facing no ban at all.




It just feels like a political decision to placate Man U. Only Mings knows if it was deliberate, no one else can tell and it seems the people that made the decision didn't take into consideration whether it was accidental or not in banning him. Barmy. :P
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Re: Refereeing Decisions 2016/17

Postby DDHammer on Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:34 pm

What Mings did looked nasty in real time and even more deliberate in slow motion regardless of who the opponent was. Doesn't really help Man United Mings missing the Liverpool game.
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Re: Refereeing Decisions 2016/17

Postby Johnny Byrne's Boots on Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:32 pm

Fifa bans Ghanaian referee for life.

Ghanaian referee Joseph Lamptey has been banned for life by Fifa for what it calls "match manipulation".

The ban results from a penalty he awarded to South Africa in a 2-1 win over Senegal in a 2018 World Cup qualifier in November.

He penalised Kalidou Koulibaly for handball, but replays showed the ball hit his knee.

Football's world governing body says it will give more details "once the decision becomes final and binding".

more on BBC website...
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Re: Refereeing Decisions 2016/17

Postby sanchoz on Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:59 am

Referee Keith Stroud has apologised after his mistake cost Newcastle the chance to retake a penalty against Burton in Wednesday's Championship game.

Stroud awarded Burton a free-kick after ruling Dwight Gayle had encroached beyond the 18-yard line before Matt Ritchie's successful spot-kick.

But an indirect free-kick is awarded for attacking encroachment only if the penalty is missed, and the spot-kick should instead have been retaken in accordance with football's Law 14.

A statement from the Professional Game Match Officials Limited later admitted Stroud and his assistants had made a mistake.

It read: "In this evening's EFL Championship game between Newcastle United and Burton Albion, referee Keith Stroud awarded Newcastle a penalty in the 29th minute.

"As Matt Ritchie took the kick, Dwight Gayle encroached in the penalty area. An indirect free-kick was awarded to Burton, but the Laws of the Game state that that the penalty kick should have been retaken.

"Unfortunately the referee has misapplied the Law. Keith and his team are understandably upset at the lapse in concentration and apologise for the mistake."

Newcastle went on to win the game 1-0, Ritchie scoring a second-half goal.


http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... alty-gaffe
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Re: Refereeing Decisions 2016/17

Postby il_martello_di_genovesi on Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:16 pm

Didn't know if there was a 2017/2018 version and didn't want to start one just incase. I can't find any reason why that handball was not given. Marriner next to Hughes, puts his hand out to control the ball, waits for the bounce from that before controlling it with his feet.
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Re: Refereeing Decisions 2016/17

Postby Metal Hammer on Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:27 pm

il_martello_di_genovesi wrote:Didn't know if there was a 2017/2018 version and didn't want to start one just incase. I can't find any reason why that handball was not given. Marriner next to Hughes, puts his hand out to control the ball, waits for the bounce from that before controlling it with his feet.


Can add to that the handball that followed our chance cleared off their line. Both handballs were advantageous to Watford.
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Standard of refereeing

Postby whufc01 on Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:21 pm

More often than not it seems we come away from a game and the talking point is the referee. This is regardless of if we win lose or draw. Are we looking at this with claret and blue specs on or is the refereeing standard in this country really that bad?

Do the F.A need to reform something to raise the standard. Any mistakes seem to be defended by the referee association, maybe they will be better off admitting the mistakes that happen every week and make an attempt to improve the officiating. Does this also call for technology to intervene, we have seen goal line technology work effectivley but will other technology slow down the game and change it for the worse. All i know is, something needs to change. What are everyone else's opinion on this, its not just us that it happens to isit?
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Re: Standard of refereeing

Postby Up the Junction on Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:23 pm

TV replays.

The only mystery is why they haven't been introduced yet given the complete success of goal line technology.
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Re: Standard of refereeing

Postby jacko on Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:38 pm

I actually think the questioning of decisions is ridiculous most of the time. It isn't easy otherwise they would get it right all the time. Replays have made it an awful lot harder. However, today what was wrong was that the ref overruled the linesman. You could sense from the body langauge that the ref was balldozing him.

TIme for video replays 100 percent.
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Re: Standard of refereeing

Postby DasNutNock on Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:51 pm

i think there's a good chance Kouyate will get a retrospective ban. His reckless behaviour could have damaged Francis's boots with his chin.
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Re: Standard of refereeing

Postby Johnny Byrne's Boots on Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:03 pm

Up the Junction wrote:TV replays.

The only mystery is why they haven't been introduced yet given the complete success of goal line technology.


I give you the Lanzini incident. After several days and countless posts on here we were still divided fifty-fifty (ish). I strongly suspect any TV match official review would have been down to which video ref we got on the day, still no better than the toss of a coin.
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Re: Standard of refereeing

Postby bondsbootlaces on Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:40 am

Since the FA Select Group of Referees has been in existence only 4 times have they demoted a referee. It’is a job until they retire, regardless of performance. Even the Pope admits he is fallible yet these ****ers can never be pulled up. Disgraceful.

We need video replays badly. There is too much money in the game now not to have it. How long until a club has 5/6 points stolen by refereeing decisions that sees them go down and a lawsuit happens? I’m surprised it hasn’t happened already. It’s sad to think that the game we all love has gone this way.
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Re: Standard of refereeing

Postby Captain Slaphead on Wed Dec 27, 2017 1:21 am

whufc01 wrote:.... is the refereeing standard in this country really that bad?


Not a thing will improve whilst that congenital halfwit Mike Riley remains in charge
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Re: Standard of refereeing

Postby GaryP on Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:09 am

Up the Junction wrote:TV replays.

The only mystery is why they haven't been introduced yet given the complete success of goal line technology.


All scoring plays are reviewed in American Football. If 4th official checks it in the minute it takes to celebrate I can't see an issue. If he feels the ref needs to see it then call him over.

Same system can be used for diving and off the ball incidents. Player concerned is then punished during the game he comitted the offence.

Not ****ing rocket science is it.
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Re: Standard of refereeing

Postby Yea Why Not on Wed Dec 27, 2017 5:15 am

Up the Junction wrote:TV replays.

The only mystery is why they haven't been introduced yet given the complete success of goal line technology.


I've heard it's been a nightmare in Germany to be fair
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Re: Standard of refereeing

Postby kayjay on Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:34 am

Be careful what you wish for...

Many North American sports have adopted replay in certain situations, with mixed results. In Canadian football, they revamped the replay rule mid-season because it was too disruptive to the flow of the game.

For the Premier League, a review after goals seems reasonable and manageable. I'd hate to see it used beyond that.
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Re: Standard of refereeing

Postby OFT on Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:12 am

Inconsistency across the game is a huge problem, well, it is for certain teams, and I'm not sure video replays would address that but for 'offsides' it could work well.
I do wonder if the rules and regs concerning retrospective action are worth sorting out (see Paul Walkers 'Not Fit For Purpose' on the front page). I find the idea that if a referee takes action on an incident on the pitch the FA deem it un-necessary to look into it any further. The referees need all the help and support they can get as players seem more than willing to expose referees shortcomings, although one might argue that the more the FA do after the game the less likely the match officials are to improve.

Not sure it'll ever get any better.
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Re: Standard of refereeing

Postby Colours never run on Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:13 am

Yea Why Not wrote:
I've heard it's been a nightmare in Germany to be fair



That's my 1 nagging fear that makes me think it's not as good as it sounds. It could well be teething problems or it could be that it spoils the natural flow of the game and leaves some incidences open to interpretation. If they can iron out the kinks then ok but if they can't, then I'm probably still a no.
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Re: Standard of refereeing

Postby szola on Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:54 am

With the level of technology, offsides and goals could be ruled 100% correct all the time.

All goals could be reviewed by the 5th ref, straight after the fact, if they permit the FA to gain access to all camera angles. Same with red cards.

In tennis you have the opportunity to review a ref's decision a few times per set. Why not have a similar system, with one or two reviews per half? Hardly that disruptive. It also gives us a chance to take a **** during game :D
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