Summer Transfer Window 2017

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Amari'i Bell was due to be out of contract but Fleetwood had an option which they've exercised to extend a year. Not seen much of him but, whilst I welcome more depth at left back personally, would be an odd signing - especially with so many decent, proven at higher standard left backs about.

Would still like us to mess up Wet Brom and sign Charlie Taylor - moving Masuaku to left wing (when fit)

West Brom have offered £3m I've heard and Leeds want £4.5m to avoid tribunal....they also strongly wanted Ashley Fletcher on loan last season which could help
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DDHammer wrote:Be a big mistake selling Masuaku, don't think he'd look out of place at any club in the world.
Roma were after Feghouli all January but only had cash for a loan IIRC correctly. May be unfair but I get the impression that the Italian clubs are regularly linked with Prem players but struggle with the finances so invariably end up offering half value or loan deals. We may be tempted with Feghouli (perhaps an idea would be to swap him for Lanzini's mate Juan Iturbe?) but can't see Masuaku going there as they'll probably offer less than we paid.

Any club in the world as left mid/wing though. Not left back.
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Would be stupid to cash in on Masuaku/Cresswell when it looks like we finally have two competent left backs for the first time in ages!

Unless someone offers £30m+ for Cresswell, I would not be cashing in. Now if the club have decided that Masuaku would be better served as a winger, then I understand this signing. Otherwise I don't see the point.
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Cash on on Cresswell if the right offer comes in. Keep Arthur unless silly money is being offered. If he stays fit next season he will be one of our best players.
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Bilic quoted as saying they wasted time on Lacazette so lost other targets. We could have told them that at the time, any decent international striker or other position for that matter will always want Champ League football unless they are paid fortunes and that ain't going to happen with us. Or they are well over 30, unwanted and looking for an easy retirement pay day. Zabeletta a prime example, whilst being a great player he is not someone we can build the future on and we'll be in the same boat in a year or so when he retires. We are worse off now than at the end of last season, we have learnt nothing and done nothing for our future.

Bilic also quite rightly states that most transfer targets have 10 or more clubs after them so getting quality players is difficult. No it's not, outbid the opposition if you really want them and pay them what they are worth instead of penny pinching complex wheeler dealing. We will be offloading 5 or 6 players at least so our chances of getting 'quality' then is pretty remote. It looks like another summer of disappointments, mediocrity and last minute panic buying of square pegs for round holes. Same old, same old.
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Of the 14 players signed last summer, only Fernandez, Masuaku, Ayew, Feghouli, Nordtveit and Fletcher are playing first team football (excludes loans). And lets face it, none of them are that great.
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I think Fernandes and Masuaku will prove to be very decent signings. The rest are as you said not that good. If there is any truth to the Ayew to Marseille rumours then bite their hand off for the 20.5m we signed him for and use it to sign Ihenacho.
I completely agree we will struggle to attract any one special with no European football. There are really only 5 ways we can sign players who are above mid table standard. 1) They happen to be die hard West Ham, 2) They are money oriented and we pay over the top 3) They are currently at a top club and are fed up of sitting on the bench 4) We sign a young or unproven but promising player and get lucky. 5) An established experienced Croatian player who has achieved everything wants to play with Bilic.... or a combination of the above.
In Ihenacho, we can hit 2, 3, and to a lesser extent 4. The issue is if an opportunity to sign a player above our status arises, we have to be quick and decisive and nit mess around.... which does not sound anything like our way.
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Peaches wrote: In Ihenacho, we can hit 2, 3, and to a lesser extent 4. The issue is if an opportunity to sign a player above our status arises, we have to be quick and decisive and nit mess around.... which does not sound anything like our way.
Payet? Carroll loan to buy?
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Fair point about Payet, but he loan to buy on Carroll dragged on a bit and we were the only ones interested.
I am sure there are many suitors for Ihenacho so we best not mess around.

It sounds like we continue to be doing a good job at recruiting good young players with reported deals close for Oxford's Ryan Ledson and Fleetwood's Amari'i Bell.

If our 21 and under crew are as good as we expect or hope, we can afford to look at older players like Fonte and Zabaleta because they will be replaced in a couple of years or sooner by the Oxford's and Burke's and Declan Rice's and Martinez's.

We do need to balance the up and coming youth with putting ourselves in a position where we can attract top established players by finishing 7th again and qualifying for at least the early rounds of the Uefa cup.
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Peaches wrote:I admit Mawson started a bit raw, but I think he has improved and developed this season more than any defender in the league this year and is still very young, By the end of the season he looked better than any of our defenders except Reid and certainly better than Maguire, Gibson and imho Keane.
Carroll is better than any of our central midfielders except for Lanzini. Spurs made a huge mistake selling him. I would think he would be first choice on the left side of central midfield

Although I do agree with you Wilson, we should loan all our promising players to Barnsley.
It's been great watching Carroll kick on at Swansea, such a good technical player who is showing how good he is now. However from that generation of Spurs youth I think the one Spurs will regret selling most is Alex Pritchard, I suspect in a couple of seasons he will be close to the England squad.

Indeed if West Ham are looking for a creative English player who is good in the ball or a cheaper version of Sigurdsson, he'd be my pick.
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DDHammer wrote:Be a big mistake selling Masuaku, don't think he'd look out of place at any club in the world.
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DDHammer wrote:Be a big mistake selling Masuaku, don't think he'd look out of place at any club in the world.
Probably correct. Don't think Masuaku and Cresswell can both be satisfied competing for LB. One or the other is going to leave. Unless we move Masuaku up to LW.
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I know with our owners we'd never sign one of them, let alone the pair, but wow, what a statement Barkley and Iheanacho would send. Young players with great futures too. I think Barkley needs to leave Everton and 1st team football in the capital could be what gets him going, That could happen at spurs but he'd be a smaller fish in a bigger pond and I don't think that's what suits him.

It shouldn't actually be that unrealistic for us to sign these types of players, 2-3 a window, and it would be a great model for success, but we will sign injury prone has-beens instead. New stadium that's meant to push us on, I really wish we would make these types of moves. Ideal summer for me would be:

Outs: Arbeloa, Nord, Feghouli, Snodgrass, Tore, Calleri
Ins: Barkley, Iheanacho

The outlay there wouldn't actually be stupid if we had any other owners.
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Modern wrote:However from that generation of Spurs youth I think the one Spurs will regret selling most is Alex Pritchard, I suspect in a couple of seasons he will be close to the England squad.

Indeed if West Ham are looking for a creative English player who is good in the ball or a cheaper version of Sigurdsson, he'd be my pick.
I know a couple of Norwich fans who rave about him and expect similar to you in terms of his development potential.
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DDHammer wrote:Be a big mistake selling Masuaku, don't think he'd look out of place at any club in the world.

Steady on.

Certainly ain't the same player who has an absolute shocker at the Hawthorns as well as a couple of other suspect performances. I do like him in general but I do think some are going a bit ott. I don't even rate him better than Cresswell overall yet, let alone slotting in seamlessly for any old team in the world.
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30m for Jordan Pickford :lol:

I just hope we're sensible this summer, it is always a worry that Sulli has some crackpot ideas and can't help himself.
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Absolutely no chance we will sign Barkley or Iheanacho unless I am missing something and they are available on loan?
We will be looking at the relegated teams, freebies and cheap signings from abroad, don't fall for these links while the season ticket deadline is approaching - same **** every year!
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Didn't we spend more on Ayew last season than Iheanacho is being touted around for? We bid double for Lacazete according to the Lyon mangement

Barkley sounds like b*llocks...it doesn't even appear to have come from the club but someone's wish list?

People always link is being linked to players to season tickets...I've never understood that...we're linked to good players throughout the window constantly and isn't it a bit if an insult to other supporters that they spend that kind of money based on rumours?

On Ayew...for me he hasn't been a flop...just not a 20+ million player. If we can get that money back it wouldn't be the worst thing to do
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ageing hammer wrote:I know I keep banging this drum but this boy is in great form since he joined my local club in Cork City and he is still only 22 years old.

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This is the equivalent of signing a striker who banged in a load in the West Essex Sunday League.

With respect I disagree with you.

Shane Long, Kevin Doyle, David Meyler all played for Cork City and they didn't do too bad in the Premier League.
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Jumby wrote:30m for Jordan Pickford :lol:.
If that's true...you've got to feel they're going to regret that in a few years when he goes for a fraction of that fee
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Barkley's okay, but he isn't top drawer.

Iheanacho is an interesting one though. Bring in a senior, consistently fit centre forward and a good loan as well and that would be welcome.
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