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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby HarlowEssexHammer on Wed May 17, 2017 10:31 am

mushy wrote:Those picking Quina in their sides.


All I have seen of him is earlier in the season in the Europa thing and he looked like a little boy lost to me.

Can someone tell me whats changed in the meantime apart from the fact that he has been labelled 'promising'?


Exactly for that reason Mush, we hear that the kid is promising so let's find out. Admittedly I've seen very little of him, but won't ever reach his apparent potential without minutes. Sunday seems a good opportunity to test him, as well as Rice.
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby mushy on Wed May 17, 2017 10:42 am

And thats my exact point.
According to the spin coming from the club we have at least 10 'promising ' youngsters (I am not convinced).
I have seen a few in the flesh, Quina looks like the unlikeliest of all of them to adapt to an away game at Burnley.
I am just wondering why particularly Quina gets the nod above the others, its like there is some strange bandwagon rolling along.
Holland (from the little I have seen) looks a much better prospect as do a few others.
But what do i know?
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby Aztec Hammer on Wed May 17, 2017 11:23 am

If Nordtveit plays...
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby sendô on Wed May 17, 2017 11:41 am

Gotta give Martinez a go even from the bench, the lad has been great for the reserves and our strikers have all be sheet.
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby YorksHammer on Wed May 17, 2017 11:59 am

We can't play Martinez. We haven't recalled him from the loan, and he only played for the U23s because it's classed as non-competitive or similar. We've done the same with Knoyle and Burke this season, had them back for U23 games but they're still technically on loan. I think we had Dobson last night, as well.

I think there are only three of the really promising youngsters on our books (according to the club) who aren't on loan - Rice, Quina, and Holland. Quina is obviously fancied, he's been on the bench a fair few times for the first team this season and (I think?) trains with the first team. Rice has made the bench recently for us too, so I would assume he's thought of pretty highly. I think Holland was on the bench against Everton, but that's his only appearance in the squad.

I think it's a lot easier for one of Holland or Quina to come in and do well than it is for Rice, especially given how shaky we can be defensively. And it seems like the club is higher on Quina than Holland based on his squad appearances this season, so if one of this clutch of youngsters is going to get played it'll most likely be him.
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby MD_HM on Wed May 17, 2017 1:44 pm

Didn't know he was fit again until last night...

I'd start Martinez instead of Callleri
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby iLoveLasagne on Wed May 17, 2017 3:07 pm

Domingos Quina

Brought through top European academy at Benfica
Been on the books of top Premier League academy at Chelsea
Has a Youtube video titled THE NEW PAYET
Dribbles around players at will a lot in the clip
Has sat on the bench a bunch of times

Putting 2 and 2 together...he is a superstar in the making. This is the kind of dumb thought process I went through when he first signed for us, minus the last point and the Payet reference of course. Having watched his clip, he doesn't even look that good. Youtube clips are pointless and misleading. How many players are able to dribble around 3 players at the top level? If he was as good as Rooney or Owen at their age I am sure he would have had some sort of opportunity already. Martin Odegaard was/is rated as the next big thing at Real and has done next to nothing in the Dutch league.
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby hammerman11 on Wed May 17, 2017 4:11 pm

need to be professional and actually turn up for the game this weekend as opposed to last sunday.

adrian
fonte collins rice
byram lanzini fernandez nordsvelt masuaka
ayew fletcher

subs
randolph cresswell dobson fegouli snodgrass callerie quinna

1-1 ayew from 3 yards !
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby Claret&Blue,Thru& on Wed May 17, 2017 7:04 pm

mushy wrote:Those picking Quina in their sides.

All I have seen of him is earlier in the season in the Europa thing and he looked like a little boy lost to me.

Can someone tell me whats changed in the meantime apart from the fact that he has been labelled 'promising'?


You're probably right; what has changed has been that he has not been in the team. Seems in that case lots on here raise players to superstar status. As with Nordtveit, it's only when they get onto the pitch that reality kicks in.
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby YorksHammer on Thu May 18, 2017 10:20 am

Don't think I'd realised Reid was out for this one. Probably time to give Rice a chance at the back, in the middle of Fonte and Collins. Either that or Ogbonna gets to return.
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby HammerMan2004 on Thu May 18, 2017 10:47 am

So I make that Carroll, Sakho, Antonio, Obiang, Kouyate, Noble, Masuaku and Reid all out injured.

Is there even any point in playing the game? :lol:
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby HammerMan2004 on Thu May 18, 2017 10:49 am

Can you imagine Tottenham performing without Kane, Janssen, Alli, Eriksen, Wanyama, Dier, Alderweireld, and Rose? :lol:
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby DaveWHU1964 on Thu May 18, 2017 10:50 am

Dead rubber. I don't care - it'll be my first away of the season and a new ground for me. Always wanted to go to Turf Moor. Looking forward to it regardless of who's in, who's out and who's shaking it all about. :scarfer:
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby JLCABA on Thu May 18, 2017 10:59 am

HammerMan2004 wrote:Can you imagine Tottenham performing without Kane, Janssen, Alli, Eriksen, Wanyama, Dier, Alderweireld, and Rose? :lol:


This would be an advantage for Tottenham? No ?
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby JLCABA on Thu May 18, 2017 11:00 am

DaveWHU1964 wrote:Dead rubber. I don't care - it'll be my first away of the season and a new ground for me. Always wanted to go to Turf Moor. Looking forward to it regardless of who's in, who's out and who's shaking it all about. :scarfer:


For some reason one of ,my favourite away jaunts

Enjoy Dave
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby PrinceH on Thu May 18, 2017 11:05 am

I love the way people here slates our 16-17 year old kids...

So useful...
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby DaveWHU1964 on Thu May 18, 2017 11:06 am

JLCABA wrote:For some reason one of ,my favourite away jaunts

Enjoy Dave

Cheers pal - I intend to :)

have no idea how I've managed to avoid the place before. Was the one place left in this country that I'd wanted to get to and hadn't managed to.

Anyway - coyi.
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby Burnley Iron on Thu May 18, 2017 12:47 pm

Sitting on the edges of their seats for much of the time this season Clarets fans have often been a bit muted at home. But Turf Moor on the final day of the season is a good time to pay your first visit, what with the Clarets managing to retain their PL status PLUS, of course, the sad demise of near neighbours B Rovers to celebrate. Looking like a fairly full house, too, which will add to the atmosphere. The away end, partly shared with home fans, is a bit dated but its acoustics are great, so you can make a fair old racket in there.

Traditionally, last game of the season Burnley youngsters usually race onto the pitch at full time and often head rashly in the direction of the away end (before thinking better of it when they see the reaction :lol: ) but it's just exuberance - they're just kids.

One or two welcoming pubs up near the station, you've also got the cricket club for (mostly) away fans directly behind your stand.

There's fantastic scenery around Burnley (which isn't the prettiest of places, but then nor is East London, come to think of it). Have a great day out.
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby sanchoz on Thu May 18, 2017 12:55 pm

Martinez already excited for next season

Martinez is not available for selection for Slaven Bilic’s first team in their final Premier League clash against Burnley on Sunday due to the rules surrounding loans to the Football League over the course of a season.


http://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2017 ... ext-season
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Re: Burnley vs West Ham Utd: Match thread

Postby YorksHammer on Thu May 18, 2017 1:04 pm

HammerMan2004 wrote:Can you imagine Tottenham performing without Kane, Janssen, Alli, Eriksen, Wanyama, Dier, Alderweireld, and Rose? :lol:


Son, Winks, N'Koudou, Sissoko, Dembele, Wimmer, and Davies would cover that lot and they'd be more than fine.
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