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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby libero on Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:54 pm

Danny's Dyer Acting wrote:
Come on..you always come across as a smart guy. Do you really think these pictures - of ice baths and players using basic equipment for what is a likely a warm up session - are really indicative of any wider issues?


I was being slightly tongue in cheek, but the proof of the pudding will be seen in August/September especially, but throughout the season too.

I have a good friend who's a professional physio and over the years I have often tried his patience droning on about West Ham's injury/fitness woes. His take is that while the installations, equipment, technology are useful tools, the crucial factor will always be the expertise of the professionals involved. And he works at a club where they think 2/3 players out is an injury crisis!

Stijn's results were a clear sign that he wasn't achieving what he was employed to do, no matter whether he has a great CV and was a lovely bloke (apparently)

Now he's been replaced with new expertise (logically in my opinion) and we'll see what happens under the new guys. My worry is that, while it was a good call to change the medical team, Slav still has his ancient fitness coach in place, so it'll be interesting to see how that works out.

And thanks for the "smart guy" comment - I showed it to my youngest son and he hasn't stopped laughing all morning :P
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby Danny's Dyer Acting on Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:49 pm

Agree with all of that (even if I do think you should maybe ban yourself from discussing it *quite* so often for the good of your blood pressure).

It is laughable that some people think using basic equipment = a damning indictment of the training regimen. God knows what the reaction would be to a sleeveless, shinpadless Lanzini that was posted on Twitter earlier :shock:
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby HammerMan2004 on Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:15 pm

http://www.claretandhugh.info/former-ha ... us-injury/

Just for shits and giggles.

Tore out for another four months. We stopped paying his £60,000 a week wages at the end of June. What an extraordinary waste of money that was.

That's what, about £5.5million for 8 appearances?
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby YorksHammer on Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:18 pm

HammerMan2004 wrote:http://www.claretandhugh.info/former-hammer-diagnosed-with-serious-injury/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Just for shits and giggles.

Tore out for another four months. We stopped paying his £60,000 a week wages at the end of June. What an extraordinary waste of money that was.

That's what, about £5.5million for 8 appearances?


Hardly his or our medical department's fault if he got clattered in training though, is it? Completely unforeseen.
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby HammerMan2004 on Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:18 pm

Of course, wasn't trying to lay blame to our medical team. Just couldn't see a reason to start a new thread about him and it involved an injury. Still money down the drain.
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby wildkard on Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:30 pm

Some of our problems stem from players saying they are ok to come back from injury when they are not. The lower end medical staff would say "I don't think you are ok, not quite yet", the player then would moan to Stijn Vandenbroucke. He'd say "if you think you're ok, you're ok. Slav, that player isn't injured any more, cash him in". Cue pulled hamstring or whatever. Of course he was under pressure to bring players back as soon as possible, but not keeping them out long enough was a major problem.
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby spod on Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:07 am

wildkard wrote:Some of our problems stem from players saying they are ok to come back from injury when they are not. The lower end medical staff would say "I don't think you are ok, not quite yet", the player then would moan to Stijn Vandenbroucke. He'd say "if you think you're ok, you're ok. Slav, that player isn't injured any more, cash him in". Cue pulled hamstring or whatever. Of course he was under pressure to bring players back as soon as possible, but not keeping them out long enough was a major problem.


Wasn't there a story about Antonio being unhappy about being rushed back from injury last season? Maybe it's not always the players' fault.
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby djclipz on Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:16 am

More pictures of footballers sat in bins please. :D
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby hammerleroy on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:05 am

Could there be a compensation claim coming from Besiktas re Tore? Wouldn't surprise me at all. :)
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby ageing hammer on Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:59 am

djclipz wrote:More pictures of footballers sat in bins please. :D


Suits Snodgrass he's rubbish
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby StevePottsGoalsReel on Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:28 pm

djclipz wrote:More pictures of footballers sat in bins please.


ageing hammer wrote:Suits Snodgrass he's rubbish


Even better fit for that grumpy little Brazilian who used to play for Chelsea. :wink:
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby SiamHammer on Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:50 pm

DDHammer wrote:re; Llewelyn

And if nothing else at least he'll sort out the Changing Rooms.


Pissed myself at that :lol:
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby YorksHammer on Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:37 am

djclipz wrote:More pictures of footballers sat in bins please. :D


Francis Coquelin:

Image

Theo Walcott:

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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby bubbles500 on Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:06 pm

Ogbonna left training early today after feeling pain is his knee & Lanzini did not train after injuring his ankle yesterday
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So it begins ,I blame the ice baths.
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby hammerdivone on Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:14 pm

Lanzini was pictured training in the rain
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby bubbles500 on Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:23 pm

No idea then football London are normally pretty good.
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby 61dicksey on Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:10 pm

Ogbonna, Ferghouli, Carroll, Sahko, Antonio , Reid , Lanzini all injured or having treatment and we have not kicked a ball in anger yet , sorry state of affairs. noble just ŵent off after 25 mins v Werder not sure why
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby libero on Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:26 pm

You forgot to mmention Kouyate who was injured first day of training and Collins who limped off at the end with a huge ice pack on his calf

That's 9 players injured already before the season even starts - impossible to make it up

Zabaleta, Hart, Arnautovic and Chicharito have always been fit, relatively injury free players at all their other clubs - be intereting to see how the bucket and sponge brigade at WH affect their match time this season
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby bubbles500 on Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:27 pm

People mocked me when I said would be same old story ,but we are in tatters before a balls been kicked.
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Re: From the Treatment Room

Postby mumbles87 on Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:29 pm

bubbles500 wrote:People mocked me when I said would be same old story ,but we are in tatters before a balls been kicked.


Out of the listed Injuries how many are picked up in pre season?

Most have been since last season
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