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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby prophet:marginal on Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:37 pm

fmgod wrote:A fully fit firing Arnie is easily good enough to lead us week in week out.


Only if he is committed to it.

I don't see it personally.
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby bubbles1966 on Fri Mar 15, 2019 3:52 pm

Crouchend_Hammer wrote:However, as i said on the Arnoutovic thread back in January, a goal and assist every two games isn't that good

puts him in a similar group as Rondon, Deeney, Deulefeo, Sigurdsson, Jota, Brooks etc


Those players are nowhere near a goal or assist every 120-130 minutes except Deleufeo who picked up 4 in a single game v Cardiff.

None of them are performing at the same level as Arnautovic was in the first half of the season. Rondon is about 1 every 150, Deeney's miles behind and he takes penalties.
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby Crouchend_Hammer on Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:36 pm

just done some analysis on performance per minute and as you rightly say Arnoutovic's stats up to and including the Arsenal game were strong in the context of goals and assists a goal or assist every 112 minutes

Over the course of the full season he is on one every 143 minutes

As context for other players outside of the top 6 [these are the best i think]:

Wilson = 1 every 90 minutes
Jiminez = 1 every 123 minutes
Javier Hernandez = 1 every 124 minutes
Vardy = 1 every 125 minutes
Deulefeu - 1 every 128 minutes
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby Smonnie on Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:55 pm

Our disinterested primadonna who doesn't want to be here and isn't good enough for us has got us out of jail today.

Proper striker.
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Sat Mar 16, 2019 5:57 pm

don't know how we can ignore him...…

how many goals is that this season and in cameo roles loads of times...….
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby chappo59 on Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:00 pm

Totally clinical finisher well done little pea
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:01 pm

came on at h-t and according to the stats just flashed up, ran almost 5K in that time.....
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby Vienna on Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:03 pm

I bloody love him, he and Perez both played well.
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby Smonnie on Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:03 pm

Cuenca 'ammer wrote:don't know how we can ignore him...…

how many goals is that this season and in cameo roles loads of times...….


As long as he is happy to stay, I see absolutely no reason to sell him.
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:07 pm

in and out of the side, I would move on were it me...

Stroppy one gets a pay raise and derails our season and the only one really twatted off is Hernandez because of his dive last week...…

:x
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby Roby on Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:08 pm

On second and third viewings his winning goal was a bloody excellent header.

Knew exactly what he was doing, a deft header at a difficult angle.

Loved his diving header too... reminded me of the one by Rosenior against Forest in that old 3-3 years ago.

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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby thejackhammer on Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:44 pm

Cuenca 'ammer wrote:in and out of the side, I would move on were it me...

Stroppy one gets a pay raise and derails our season and the only one really twatted off is Hernandez because of his dive last week...…

:x


Honestly I'm getting bored of typing this.

Arnautovic got an increase to his performance based incentives. It's not a pay rise as hes not earning it.

Also Arnie is constantly 'twatted off' on here.
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby westham,eggyandchips on Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:51 pm

westham,eggyandchips wrote:Diving around like a ****.

Muggy at the very least. :thdn:


What a difference a week makes. :scarfer:
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby smuts on Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:38 pm

Today is more like the diving we want to see Chicha. :thup:
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:40 pm

well whose bloody fault is it that he's not earning his performance based increases

were he to then he would be getting more money wouldn't he ?

so in actual fact he WAS placed in a situation whereby he COULD earn more money if he could be arsed.
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby thejackhammer on Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:47 pm

Cuenca 'ammer wrote:well whose bloody fault is it that he's not earning his performance based increases

were he to then he would be getting more money wouldn't he ?

so in actual fact he WAS placed in a situation whereby he COULD earn more money if he could be arsed.

It's his own fault, not the owners, not Pellegrini, its Arnautovic.

How is that an issue? We were in a tough situation. If we sold him for the £25 million bid there would have been uproar, so we arranged some performance based incentives to keep him interested. It hasn't worked, no harm done.
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby brothernero on Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:05 pm

8 goals now for JH, not bad for a player in and out of the team.

Came off the bench and scored two cracking headers to win us the game. Stunned reading on the matchday thread some still giving him some stick.
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:09 pm

jackhammer

we were never in a situation to sell him for 25M

nor were we in a position where we needed to chuck more incentives at him either

I am pretty sure today they said he hasn't scored since early November - did we feel that we needed then to chuck money at him as an incentive to do what he's paid for ? score bloody goals or assist them ?


I'm gobsmacked that some are happy with that
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby thejackhammer on Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:17 pm

Cuenca 'ammer wrote:jackhammer

we were never in a situation to sell him for 25M

nor were we in a position where we needed to chuck more incentives at him either

I am pretty sure today they said he hasn't scored since early November - did we feel that we needed then to chuck money at him as an incentive to do what he's paid for ? score bloody goals or assist them ?


I'm gobsmacked that some are happy with that


He all but handed in a transfer request, the only bid we got was a pathetic one from China.

The options were sell him under value, let him rot in the reserves, or try to get him to perform by essentially black mailing him.

He scored two against Brighton in January, hasn't scored since. I honestly cant blame the board for trying to get him to perform with the contract changes, it's a no lose situation, if he was still banging the goals in brilliant, if he does as he has done and is pretty useless, no harm done as hes not earning anymore
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Re: Javier Hernandez Signs

Postby devonshire flu on Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:25 pm

I think that Javier Hernandez now has the most Premier League goals as a substitute.

I might be wrong, though.
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