Relegation Thread 2017/18

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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby bubbles1966 on Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:38 pm

I wouldn't completely write West Brom off;

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Chelsea have been poor of late, and then their next six are all winnable.

Pardew is the kind of manager who gets his teams on winning/losing streaks.

If his team carry on losing, then 40 points may be necessary; if they go on a run it will nail quite a few others down and lower the points total everyone else needs.

End of season games against the "big" teams also turn out some strange results as minds wander to other competitions or playing in the World Cup.

I think Stoke and Huddersfield will go.
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby Jumby on Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:44 pm

I can't remember a Pardew side ever going on a decent winning streak, following a losing streak, certainly not one decent enough to save this West Brom side. Losing at home to Southampton leaves them in a real mess, if they lose tonight they're seven points adrift with eleven games to play, probably needing to win at least five of those.
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby dave_l on Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:48 pm

The Palace supporting friends of mine are feeling very pessimistic at the moment, particularly with Zaha out for a fair few weeks. Then again, they're old school Palace fans, not the new "fashionable" ultras so have enjoyed some colourful times over the years.
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby bubbles1966 on Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:54 pm

Jumby wrote:I can't remember a Pardew side ever going on a decent winning streak, following a losing streak, certainly not one decent enough to save this West Brom side. Losing at home to Southampton leaves them in a real mess, if they lose tonight they're seven points adrift with eleven games to play, probably needing to win at least five of those.


Having seen WBA, Huddersfield and Watford in the last month or so I would expect West Brom to pick up six points against the other two. They were by far the best of the three.
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby Knighter10WHU on Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:56 pm

I fancy Southampton, West Brom and Huddersfield to go down this year, not sure why but I think Lambert will get Stoke out of it. Also fancy Hughton to do a job for Brighton and keep them up by defending well something which Boro tried and failed at last year.
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby bubbles1966 on Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:57 pm

dave_l wrote:The Palace supporting friends of mine are feeling very pessimistic at the moment, particularly with Zaha out for a fair few weeks. Then again, they're old school Palace fans, not the new "fashionable" ultras so have enjoyed some colourful times over the years.


Four of their next 5 are Tottenham, Liverpool, Man U and Chelsea (though they always seem to do well against Chelsea).

Huddersfield are the game in between - Huddersfield beat them 3-0 earlier in the year.

They'd be doing well to get 5 points from that set of games with the 'big' teams all chasing CL.
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby sharphammer on Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:10 pm

I reckon Stoke, West Brom, Southampton to go down

We'll finish 10th on 42 points

Man City win the league with 102 points.

S*urs 2nd

** Not according to any predictor!
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby Jumby on Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:18 pm

I just can't see a three wins in 26 West Brom turning into a five or six wins in 12 West Brom, not when they're losing at home, and conceding three, against Southampton.
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby sutts07 on Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:18 pm

I think teams are looking at 37/38 to stay up really. Maybe even a few less.

38 would have kept you up every season since we last went down, 36/37 would have seen you safe all but one season.

So looking at the bottom half, who is really going to get up to 37pts and above with just 11 games left?

WBA need 17pts so at least five wins and have only had three wins all season.

Southampton need four wins and have only won five so far all season.

Stoke need four wins and have only managed six all season.

Palace and Brighton need three wins which shouldn't be beyond them as they both have six wins to date

Huddersfield and Swansea need three wins but have seven to their name so far and have shown that they can win in the last few weeks.

Newcastle need three wins so can't get too complacent despite having seven to their name.

West Ham, Watford and Bournemouth all still need to find a couple of wins and a draw or two but 'should' be fine having already won 7/8 so far.

WBA look to be gone, winning five from 12 would be epic and they don't look anything like epic.
Stoke have some big games that will shape the whole picture. They play Southampton on 3rd March, the loser of that game will be bang in trouble. They then end the season with games against Palace and Swansea.
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby iLoveLasagne on Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:21 pm

Daniel Sturridge will be the key to WBA's hopes. I think they will survive.
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby Jumby on Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:25 pm

iLoveLasagne wrote:Daniel Sturridge will be the key to WBA's hopes. I think they will survive.


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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby NW5hammer on Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:34 pm

Unless they get a draw tonight I think WBA are down, barring a miracle. Stoke and Saints both now look like they are struggling, even though they have quality. Huddersfield are still the poorest squad. Three of those four I reckon. Probably Saints surviving.
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby Puff Daddy on Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:04 pm

The key to survival is goals. One look at the Premier League table and you can see the tell tale reasons which give a massive clue to who will drop

West Brom with just 21 goals scored
Brighton with 22
Huddersfield with 23
Swansea with 24
Newcastle with 25
Crystal Palace with 25
Stoke with 27
Southampton with 28

The three who drop will come form these
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby Paddy O'Hammer on Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:19 pm

I still wouldn't rule us out though :oops:

We are as liable to fupp things up as much as our peers.
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby uptonparkhurst on Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:22 pm

Puff Daddy wrote:The key to survival is goals. One look at the Premier League table and you can see the tell tale reasons which give a massive clue to who will drop

West Brom with just 21 goals scored
Brighton with 22
Huddersfield with 23
Swansea with 24
Newcastle with 25
Crystal Palace with 25
Stoke with 27
Southampton with 28

The three who drop will come form these


:o
Are you really that confident that our (currently) fit strikers will stay injury free?
(Tempting fate, and all that..)
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby szola on Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:37 pm

I wouldn't expect any team from Everton and up, to be involved in the relegation scrap come April.
Burnley are too far off with 36 pts.

I would expect all the teams below Everton to be within a touching distance of relegation come mid-April.

We're again in the fun end of the table
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby sharphammer on Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:41 pm

surely even we can muster 7 or 8 points from...

Swansea
Burnley
Southampton
Stoke
Leicester
Everton

Cant We?....... :oops:
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby brothernero on Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:49 pm

I would love it if Stoke, Palace and Southampton were to be the three teams relegated.

So please at least let it be one of them.


As far as we are concerned, I think we need another 9 points, 10 to be sure. We have a tough last 11 games. Home form is now going to be key. We are not out of the woods yet.
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby Nick Sneddon on Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:54 pm

we arent going to get relegated ffs
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Re: Relegation Thread 2017/18

Postby brothernero on Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:58 pm

Just looked at the table again and the remaining fixtures of each team below us, I have changed my mind. I am not quite sure 39 will be enough, not even now convinced 40 will be.

Based on our goal difference and the others teams goal difference, I think we may need to reach 41 points.

This could go down to the last game when we play Everton. If that happens then oh boy, as we all know what our record against them is like.

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