De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby Albie Beck on Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:54 pm


There's an updated West Ham version called "Ain't Got A Cluedo"
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby e17 on Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:58 pm

Utterly ridiculous decision to sack Rio after 4 games of Cluedo

Time to sell Colonel Mustard to Stoke for 8 million etc etc
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby BrownFatwa on Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:00 pm

Player power, has to be surely.
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby MB on Mon Sep 11, 2017 3:05 pm

BrownFatwa wrote:Player power, has to be surely.


Must be to go that quickly
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby Graza on Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:05 pm

Bonkers. Obviously brought in to change the style. Was always going to take 4/5 transfer windows to bring in and move on players. Establishing the style would have been 18months to 2 years minimum.

With Hodgson at the helm they may well be heading out of the league.
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby James P on Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:09 pm

They won't go down under Hodgson. No chance.
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby SpongeBob's Pants on Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:26 pm

I reckon there was more going on behind the scenes that the chairman, board, etc were worried about.

It simply cannot be the results alone. You surely give the guy a bit of a chance.
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby simon hammer on Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:28 pm

BrownFatwa wrote:Player power, has to be surely.


They don't seem the brightest or highest skilled bunch of lads ever assembled. Maybe anything marginally more taxing, tactics wise, than 'stop it going in that goal, put it in the other goal and get it there as quickly as possible' and they are struggling.

Made for Sam Allardyce/Tony Pulis.
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby Puff Daddy on Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:37 pm

They've been going down hill ever since Malcolm Allison left. Best manager they have ever had and no idea why he was never our manager, Effing well should have been
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby mushy on Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:28 pm

Puff Daddy wrote:They've been going down hill ever since Malcolm Allison left. Best manager they have ever had and no idea why he was never our manager, Effing well should have been


Yes, taking them from the old first division down to the third in successive seasons really did Palace the world of good.
Notable achievements included changing the nickname from the Glaziers to the Eagles.
Just the type of thing we needed over at West Ham.
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby Iron-worx on Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:48 pm

The bookies called it right, he was favourite for the chop...

Bilic now favourite 5/2 Bet Victor
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby SammyLeeWasOffside on Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:05 pm

Iron-worx wrote:The bookies called it right, he was favourite for the chop...

Bilic now favourite 5/2 Bet Victor

Probably because they played before we did
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby AnthraxDave on Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:06 pm

Football has gone full nutjob. How can a manager be judged after just 4 games FFS.
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby swash on Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:30 pm

According to an article on the beeb one of the reasons for his sacking was

De Boer's apparent diversion from a number of agreements reached when he signed, such as the team's formation.

Amazed that a manager should be expected to play a certain formation, before he's even worked with the players etc.

Does seem that the modern day football manager is more and more trying to run with his laces tied together
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby simon hammer on Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:58 pm

swash...

Makes one wonder why chairman bother with managers at all. In laying down conditions for them to work to they are effectively saying 'I want you to manage how I believe it should be done'...in which case, why not simply do it themselves and cut out the middle man.

It is my opinion only, but the modern manager appears to be nothing but a fall guy who is hired to manage a team the way the chairman wants it done and then fired when it, somewhat inevitably, doesn't work. I would love to see Sullivan and sons in our dugout, managing the team...never happen though, as they wouldn't have anyone but themselves to blame when it goes wrong!
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby Puff Daddy on Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:12 pm

swash wrote:According to an article on the beeb one of the reasons for his sacking was

De Boer's apparent diversion from a number of agreements reached when he signed, such as the team's formation.

Amazed that a manager should be expected to play a certain formation, before he's even worked with the players etc.

Does seem that the modern day football manager is more and more trying to run with his laces tied together


If chairmen are laying down conditions such as that and the manager is unhappy with those terms, nobody is forcing them to accept the offer, just as is with any offer of employment. De Boer must have enough money not to have been that desperate to have accepted it with those caveats attached, so one is left wondering why he did?
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby traxop on Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:57 am

BrownFatwa wrote:Player power, has to be surely.


simon hammer wrote:They don't seem the brightest or highest skilled bunch of lads ever assembled. Maybe anything marginally more taxing, tactics wise, than 'stop it going in that goal, put it in the other goal and get it there as quickly as possible' and they are struggling.

Made for Sam Allardyce/Tony Pulis.



Funny, your comment made me think of Leicester City. Ranieri tried to expand their playing style that second season and the players just didn't take to it. They were almost relieved when Shakespeare reintroduced the over-the-top-to-Vardy again.
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby HAH on Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:28 am

Dutch media reporting that player power was indeed part of it.

Benching a player in training, saying that he should pay close to attention to learn.
While running, running in front of the pack
Showing his skills still
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby The Gibbins on Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:05 am

Sounds like Glenn Hoddle..
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Re: De Boer Sacked (non WHU!)

Postby rare as rockinghorse shat on Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:03 pm

The Gibbins wrote:Sounds like Glenn Hoddle..


The infamous 'this is how you should take free kicks, Becks' advice in England training in front of the squad, followed by Hoddle whipping 2 free kicks plum into the top corner.

Sometimes managers struggle to manage players who will never be as good as they were.

It's interesting that there's a relatively minute amount of successful managers that were top players.

Those that can't do, teach. An oft used, highly degrading phrase, especially when the actual teaching is often a higher discipline than the actual doing.
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