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Re: How would you change football for the better?

Postby rainhamtown on Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:39 pm

Ticket prices should come down or kids under a certain age are free. Especially in our case where we have spare seats we need to flog anyway.

Regarding the game, video technology scanning the pitch at all times and overriding / informing the referee when he's missed something or got something wrong. There just is no need for so many games to be decided on bad calls.
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Re: How would you change football for the better?

Postby Kludgehammer on Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:48 pm

James P wrote:Because it is perfectly legal and part of the game to use your body as a shield in order to allow you to hold a position from which you can play the ball. Players do it this all over the pitch in all parts of the game. You are not however compelled to play the ball. There is no rule that says you must kick the ball if you can. Such a rule is nonsensical and unenforceable. Therefore if you are holding a position where you can play the ball but it is advantageous for you not to, ie because the ball will run out of play, then you are doing nothing wrong.

Obstruction is when you intentionally block or impede a player but you yourself cannot play the ball.


FIFA say wrote:There four offences for which an indirect free kick is also
awarded to the opposing team if a player, in the opinion of the referee:
  • plays in a dangerous manner
  • impedes the progress of an opponent
  • prevents the goalkeeper from releasing the ball from his hands{*]commits any other offence, not previously mentioned in Law 12, for which play is stopped to caution or dismiss a player
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The FA say wrote:Indirect free kick
An indirect free kick is awarded if a player:

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impedes the progress of an opponent without any contact being made
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IMPEDING THE PROGRESS OF AN OPPONENT WITHOUT CONTACT

Impeding the progress of an opponent means moving into the opponent’s path to obstruct, block, slow down or force a change of direction when the ball is not within playing distance of either player.

All players have a right to their position on the field of play; being in the way of an opponent is not the same as moving into the way of an opponent.

A player may shield the ball by taking a position between an opponent and the ball if the ball is within playing distance and the opponent is not held off with the arms or body. If the ball is within playing distance, the player may be fairly charged by an opponent.
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In short, you can run across their path if you're within reach of the ball, so they have to run around you, but you can't do what defenders do all the time, which is to deliberately run across the path when they're several feet away from the ball or push away the attacker with their body so the attacker can't get at the ball.
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Re: How would you change football for the better?

Postby James P on Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:23 am

All of that is exactly what I said. For some reason you’ve only chosen to highlight half my sentence.

Shepherding the ball out, which you initially decried, is where a player keeps themselves between an opponent and the ball at a distance where they themselves can play the ball. Obstruction is indeed blocking an opponent when you yourself cannot play the ball.
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Re: How would you change football for the better?

Postby Kludgehammer on Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:16 am

Agree to disagree - you see clever defensive play, I see obstruction
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Re: How would you change football for the better?

Postby essexguy on Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:22 pm

Player wage caps with the goal of reducing the expense for fans. Players get paid too much.
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Re: How would you change football for the better?

Postby warp on Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:37 pm

multiball!
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Re: How would you change football for the better?

Postby wigwig on Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:57 pm

Salary Cap, Transfer cap. Evolve a more similar system to the Draft used in American Football. Problem with the EPL is its predictable, and the bigger clubs see themselves as being above the League in terms of stature. This would level the playing field somewhat, and stop the stupidity of Chelsea having 50+ players out on loan etc. It would improve the English national team, also it'll never happen.
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Re: How would you change football for the better?

Postby hammernsickle on Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:33 pm

wigwig wrote:Salary Cap, Transfer cap. Evolve a more similar system to the Draft used in American Football. Problem with the EPL is its predictable, and the bigger clubs see themselves as being above the League in terms of stature. This would level the playing field somewhat, and stop the stupidity of Chelsea having 50+ players out on loan etc. It would improve the English national team, also it'll never happen.


The draft system is terrible. It rewards mediocrity and creates situations where teams that are doing poorly will deliberately try and lose to have the worst record to get the best draft pick.

It is up there with lack of promotion and relegation why I can't get behind the MLS here.
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Re: How would you change football for the better?

Postby JLCABA on Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:25 pm

No “ under armour “ allowed
... fans to be banned if wearing replica shirt over top of ordinary clothing

Red cards for outfield players wearing Gloves

Total Television ban on Jermaine Jeans and Jamie Redknapp
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Re: How would you change football for the better?

Postby Adam 'The Smudge' on Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:26 pm

Simply make it a game for the people, not for commerce.
Create a new world football organisation to replace FIFA and its staff to be chosen (one from each member country) and to be paid a fixed fee from their country's association.
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Re: How would you change football for the better?

Postby Gnome on Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:58 pm

World Cup
Not the first time I've proposed this but World Cup qualification should be comprised of

Hosts,
Holders, Runners Up & 3rd place from the previous tournament (makes that 3rd place playoff more interesting)
The holders of each Federation's continental tournament (CAF/CONCACAF/UEFA/CONMEBOL/AFC/OFC)

That will give up to 10 entrants. If we must have 32 at the final the top 100 countries should be split into 20 groups of 5 teams on a global basis. We don't have to spend six weeks on a boat to get to away matches any more so why shouldn't qualification be global. (The diversity angle is covered by the Federation tournament holders)

That will add 20 Group winners plus two best runners up maybe.

The remaining 100 teams should go into a "Division Two" - on a regional basis if required - to fight for promotion into the World Group. They could also have their own mini World Tournament at the end if they like.

That ought to give a stronger World Cup more likely to have better teams in it. And since qualification would be on merit rather than geography the temptation to offer lesser footballing nations World Cup places and other "cough" incentives in return for votes come election time would disappear.
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Re: How would you change football for the better?

Postby OFT on Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:52 pm

All new rules and regulations to be subjected to a KUMB 'poll' to decide if they should be implemented world wide..
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Re: How would you change football for the better?

Postby warp on Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:33 pm

OFT wrote:All new rules and regulations to be subjected to a KUMB 'poll' to decide if they should be implemented world wide..


winner!
that, and ius primae noctis: any player bought by any british team has to spend a season at west ham, if so required.


and multiball.
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Re: How would you change football for the better?

Postby Mega Ron on Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:46 pm

West Ham to be officially closed.
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