The Truth Is Out There............

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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby Bobby Moore Out on Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:02 am

Irish Times original piece (also had JS's match report from the Guardian):

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer ... -1.3423328" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm impressed by how many journos seem to be making an effort to inform themselves and not jumping for the knee-jerk West Ham rowdies line. Most don't get the corner flag symbol, though.
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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby Vic_Watson on Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:06 am

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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby smuts on Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:19 am

IABATAC wrote:https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/west-ham-pitch-invasion-led-to-unjust-aggression-but-the-corner-flag-stood-for-something-greater-at-a3787041.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ouble-blog" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


"Moonbase Alpha" :lol:

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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby Doc H Ball on Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:44 am

https://www.theguardian.com/football/bl ... d-williams

This piece probably comes the closest to linking the threats made to the actions of the Board.

Could anyone ever have imagined an article such as this 2 weeks ago? They really are caught up in this shitstorm.
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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby JCA on Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:46 am

Well, that's about every major national paper onto it now, plus The Irish Times, Middlesbrough Gazette and others.
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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby Hamburger on Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:13 am

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Let’s hope the journos dig a little deeper and find the unsavoury truth behind the sale of the Boleyn and the lies that it could not be upgraded.
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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby Wembley1966 on Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:21 am

^^^ Kieran Maquire did a write up on the sale of the Boleyn and how Boleyn Phoenix possibly made £20m from it, at the end of his analysis of the accounts:

http://priceoffootball.com/west-ham-united-2017-financial-results-fools-gold/
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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby simon hammer on Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:24 am

JCA wrote:Well, that's about every major national paper onto it now, plus The Irish Times, Middlesbrough Gazette and others.


About the only person thumping their drum is Jim White on talksport. He will look even more silly when the truth comes out.
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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby Wembley1966 on Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:29 pm

Double page spread in today's Telegraph!

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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby iLoveLasagne on Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:52 pm

Despite some solid journalism being displayed there is still some propaganda being churned out. https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comm ... 1.html?amp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby DaveWHU1964 on Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:46 pm

iLoveLasagne wrote:Despite some solid journalism being displayed there is still some propaganda being churned out.

Some press protect our owners. Our owners look after their sycophantic supporters. They all feed off each other. They all support and they all protect each other. It's the way the world they've created runs - in other realms not utterly dis-similar relationships end up with things like the Leveson Enquiry.

The good thing here is that serious papers, serious journalists have broken ranks with the boards useful puppets such as Samuels, White, Dale, Southon, etc. Even Dyer has had to get with the programme because if he doesn't he just looks stupid because no one else other than Samuels is toeing the party line. Most journalists don't like being in a minority.
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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby Kialos on Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:03 pm

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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby simonirons on Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:14 pm

That one above nailed it. - great to see. :thup:
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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby The Old Mile End on Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:10 am

I have to say, at the moment, the press is putting forward a much better protest than we are!

Whereas actions speak louder than words, unless I've missed it, I haven't seen anywhere a reply given to KB to inform her that the protest was anti-Board (from the united group that met with her that is).

If direct and meaningful dialogue is going to happen, it needs to get off on the right footing. The board need to know that the group they meet with is the one with the support of the fans. They thought they had this before, having gone to extraordinary lengths to try and shut it up.

They were wrong, as usual, but will be a bit more cautious next time.
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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby DM on Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:08 pm

Henry Winter in the Times. C&P from WHO online as Times is subscription.

http://www.westhamonline.net/forum_flat ... 82502||1||
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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby szola on Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:09 pm

Kialos wrote:http://www.offtheball.com/Soccer/Its-no-surprise-that-people-are-getting-angry--John-Brewin-blames-West-Ham-owners-for-fan-aggression" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


This one is golden :thup:
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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby Barnet Steve on Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:11 pm

The Sun getting involved too is very interesting. Didn't think they would run anything as Brady 'writes' for them. This is tanks on the lawn time for her...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... league-fa/
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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby Beavis Danzig on Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:16 pm

Barnet Steve wrote:The Sun getting involved too is very interesting. Didn't think they would run anything as Brady 'writes' for them. This is tanks on the lawn time for her...

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... league-fa/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


the most atypical sun article which tries to lay the blame at the yobbo hooligans door, and even this gives the stadium and ownership a proper coating.

just shows how the press work. they're onside with the money right until they smell blood in the water.
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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby goa127 on Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:43 pm

Yeah the press tend to follow stories rather than create their own. For them the story of mismanagement has more mileage in it than a few protesters on the pitch. It needs to stay that way though
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Re: The Truth Is Out There............

Postby Fishdo on Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:03 pm

Wembley1966 wrote:^^^ Kieran Maquire did a write up on the sale of the Boleyn and how Boleyn Phoenix possibly made £20m from it, at the end of his analysis of the accounts:

http://priceoffootball.com/west-ham-united-2017-financial-results-fools-gold/


Thanks mate... it all stinks when you look at the accounts as a whole.....but Reading that article through only highlights how big a scam the sale of the BG was .... like you say mate... what with the club accounts changing the way the ground was valued a year before we sold it... so it could be down valued on our books ready for a specially created company called Boleyn Phoenix to buy the ground despite them not being the highest bid and having been effectively blackballed by Newham Council... then to make almost £20 million on the deal with Barrett’s .... who paid this one off company the money for the ground on the same day we sold it...!!
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