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Re: What now?

Postby the pink palermo on Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:35 pm

Did they ever truly think the whole thing through ?

I mean properly , with risk analysis, scenario planning, contingency plans etc .

I doubt it.

Relocating any business is risky, a football club especially so. They placed it all on black and it's come up red.

C'est fa le risqué.
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Re: What now?

Postby Swindon Iron on Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:51 pm

They clearly didn’t Pinky but then I’ve never understood what Brady is supposed to have achieved to be labelled as a great example of a businesswoman. But I have never watched the apprentice so maybe it’s clear to those that do.
I was surprised they were still here by the time we moved, I thought their plan was get the stadium on the cheap with little investment needed, sell up at a large profit and leave to some other poor schmuck to sort. It’s felt as if they were doing the bare minimum until they could cash in and they have now run out of time to exit before it hit the fan.
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Re: What now?

Postby bubbles500 on Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:02 am

Joke is while we pour our hearts out on here they are having a jolly old time in Miami. Notice there’s no pictures of training on the beach on twitter lol.
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Re: What now?

Postby smuts on Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:12 am

Swindon Iron wrote:They clearly didn’t Pinky but then I’ve never understood what Brady is supposed to have achieved to be labelled as a great example of a businesswoman. But I have never watched the apprentice so maybe it’s clear to those that do.
I was surprised they were still here by the time we moved, I thought their plan was get the stadium on the cheap with little investment needed, sell up at a large profit and leave to some other poor schmuck to sort. It’s felt as if they were doing the bare minimum until they could cash in and they have now run out of time to exit before it hit the fan.


I've said this all along. They expected someone to come in with a billion pound offer when we moved in and they'd be off.

Sadly for them a rented athletics ground isn't very attractive to actual business people who do proper due diligence and risk management.
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Can we still be West Ham United?

Postby Hamburger on Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:34 pm

After all the vitriol and obvious divisive recent events, how do we move forward? We have different ideas and ways of being a supporter, we don’t all agree on everything and we were probably the same at the Boleyn but we accepted it and somehow pulled in the same direction. We are where we are, times are changing (have changed) and apart from getting rid of the board, how can we be United again? There are so many factions and disparate media, serious and positive efforts and actions are needed by all of us.
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Re: What now?

Postby Gsbgsb on Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:06 pm

I know I will be reviled for saying this but to my mind a large part of the problem is what is happening on the pitch. Many have issues with the stadium accepted but if they had got the recruitment right and we were winning games I doubt we would be seeing the same degree of hostility we saw on Saturday, heck if we were winning that game as we should have been I doubt there would have been the pitch invasion when Burnley scored.

First and foremost they need to get this right. Ultimately it is this more than anything that will also make the club a saleable asset.

As for putting it up for sale I believe it always has been if the price is right. They will go when they get an offer, have the protests reduced the price very possibly but equally as someone posted why would a player join us right now the same could be said of a new owner especially one in it for the money as most are. I would suggest right now we are pretty close to bottom of the attractive takeover list for Premier clubs and probably below many Championship sides especially when price is taken into account. Profits are great but there is no sense of any stability on which to make a long term investment.

The stadium is a long term issue, yes we have a 99 year lease but what ground has ever stood unredeveloped for anything like that time? The bowl will unfortunately drive away many old fans who can not stand the change but for me it is still a symptom rather than a cause.

Issues like the badge, stewarding, traders etc should be an easy fix in the short term. These were idiotic mistakes as they were totally in their control and they messed up.
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Re: What now?

Postby NorthBankAlliance on Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:10 pm

Gsbgsb wrote:I know I will be reviled for saying this but to my mind a large part of the problem is what is happening on the pitch.


:asleep:

How many times does this have to be debated & disproved?
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Re: What now?

Postby Upton Carp on Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:48 pm

duncanio wrote:1) Empathise
2) Apologise and admit their errors, make a statement
3) Employ an experienced director of football before the next game (3 weeks) and hand over control.
4) Stop interfering and stop going to games.
5) Carry out the achievable items in Brady's 5000 word letter.

Achievable within 3 weeks


6) Stay away from the office, the press, social media and (most important of all), the stadium.
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Re: What now?

Postby Puff Daddy on Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:56 pm

bubbles500 wrote:Joke is while we pour our hearts out on here they are having a jolly old time in Miami. Notice there’s no pictures of training on the beach on twitter lol.


and you can bed certain, somebody will return from this jolly nursing an injury
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Re: What now?

Postby sicknote on Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:08 pm

Ginge will put on a chequered shirt be mistaken for a hill billy and sent back to Mississippi to a caravan park never to be seen again

Mark noble will go with some of the youth players on one of them airboat tours on the Everglades looking for alligators, and one will sneak up on them and mark will go into automatic protection mode and dove on the alligator, and never be seen again

Andy Carroll will go on a bender in the casino in his best white suit and be mistaken for s mafioso and invited to have a ride on a jetski and sent out on one stuck on full throttle heading east and never to be seen again
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Re: What now?

Postby bondsbootlaces on Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:24 pm

sicknote wrote:
Andy Carroll will go on a bender in the casino in his best white suit and be mistaken for s mafioso and invited to have a ride on a jetski and sent out on one stuck on full throttle heading east and never to be seen again

You've got my hopes up here
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Re: What now?

Postby sicknote on Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:32 pm

David Sullivan, will take the family off to Disney land, and after a few days chilling out by the pool tries out his new tan intensifying after sun, this turns him slightly orange, but living in Theydon Bois and having friends from Brentwood being orange is normal and quite trendy

And today’s the day they are all going on a vip trip to the rides, he puts his best brown t shirt on and white shorts and as he has been eating healthy the last three days some white braces so his shorts don’t fall down

They get to the rides and they find willy wonkas ride, as they get on the boat and go in the tunnel all his dreams and knightmates flash past him, cash, porn , tall people and men brandishing corner flags, the ride stops and he feels queesy, but they’d arrived at a chocolate river surrounded by edible looking plants, but they can’t touch them, by now the boys are tucking in to every plant going and drinking the chocolate river, both fall in and end up blocking the pipes and getting shot out the pipes where the oompa lumps men sort them out, and sing them a song about greed being bad

Meanwhile DAVE is stood there quite concerned about the boys but even more so about the way not only do the Oompa Loompa men look angry but are running at him and then wrestling him to the ground, jumping on him and shouting imposter imposter, are you trying to take the piss out of us wearing our clothes and oranging yourself up , they stick him in a wheelbarrow and take him to the golden goose room, chuck him out the wheelbarrow and stick him on the egg quality control machine, and yep ....

he’s a wrongun !!!
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Re: What now?

Postby woodford on Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:35 pm

sicknote wrote:David Sullivan, will take the family off to Disney land, and after a few days chilling out by the pool tries out his new tan intensifying after sun, this turns him slightly orange, but living in Theydon Bois and having friends from Brentwood being orange is normal and quite trendy




:lol: imagine him trying to get out of "its a small world"
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Re: What now?

Postby Gsbgsb on Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:47 pm

NorthBankAlliance wrote:
:asleep:

How many times does this have to be debated & disproved?


Sorry I believe the performances and recruitment has a huge part in the current unrest. Had we signed the players promised, competed in the cups and be sitting 8/9 with an outside chance of Europe then I simply do not believe we would see the level of unrest we saw Saturday. The stadium is an issue with many, the broken promises on players and related poor performances an issue with all.
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Re: What now?

Postby Johnny_C WHU on Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:56 pm

Unfortunately I think the same players that didn't turn up for Slav at the start of the season will not show again now, using the toxic bowl as an excuse.

I think we will probably be fined (we could pay it from all the coins thrown at the directors box.....) and security will be stepped up. I fully expect something similar at the Southampton game and I think the rest of the season will be behind closed doors.

It has gone too far now to return to normal before the end of the season. they wont sell, they will make promises about next season - we wont buy it etc. it only takes one person to be bearing a grudge to run onto the pitch and I bet there are more than one unhappy camper.

They need to be far removed from the situation for it to calm down and I think the only way it would ever get better is for them to say they are actively selling.

I strongly dislike the tone of the general media that it is the West Ham thugs etc. when we all know it is deeper than that. We might not have helped ourselves with people running on the pitch (hardly an invasion) but the protesting by the directors box has certainly made the board realise that their bluff tactics are not working!
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Re: What now?

Postby westham,eggyandchips on Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:17 pm

They just need to stay away for the remainder of the season. Lets not give them or the players an excuse for anymore pisspoor performances.
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Re: What now?

Postby goa127 on Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:29 pm

I'd like them to stay away for the time being, but I have to say, if I was David Sullivan (fortunately I'm not) I'd make sure I was there. So I think they'll all be there bold as brass because anything else would be too much of a climbdown
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Re: What now?

Postby irongav on Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:20 pm

they have to fancy their chances of buying the bowl,
money not being spent.......could be the first down payment!
squad not good enough or barely at least to stay in the premiership, rent for said bowl allegedly half price in the championship
Trying to take over stewarding , they wont do it for free, the owners of bowl losing money hand over fist, tax payers money is not or should not be used to balance the books, lawsuits that are crippling owners, the only way this can go is for them to purchase the bowl! [or we get chucked out]
great business for them....... :(
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Re: What now?

Postby Hamburger on Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:43 am

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So it’s a director of football or something? Who on earth will want to work with those shysters? It’s just ‘razzle dazzle’ again as no matter who he wants to sign Sully will still be pulling the purse strings and insisting on long instalments and Green Sheild stamps. It’s just smoke & mirrors again.

I heard possibly Harry Redknapp, over 70 and another barrow boy FFS. Whoever gets appointed though needs autonomy and money to buy, not loans, complex contracts and hire purchase.
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Re: Can we still be West Ham United?

Postby westlondonhammer on Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:34 am

Hamburger wrote:After all the vitriol and obvious divisive recent events, how do we move forward? We have different ideas and ways of being a supporter, we don’t all agree on everything and we were probably the same at the Boleyn but we accepted it and somehow pulled in the same direction. We are where we are, times are changing (have changed) and apart from getting rid of the board, how can we be United again? There are so many factions and disparate media, serious and positive efforts and actions are needed by all of us.


Spot on Hamburger

For me we're broken from top to bottom. While we've been broken at the top for a while we've now let that destroy us at the core and that's changed the DNA of the club beyond repair for me. United? A family? No... and I'm not sure we can get back to that. Reading threads like the Noble one it feels more like you are with us or against us - a division we are now creating.

Will a change at the top bring back the old West Ham? The 'we'll do anything for another hammer' attitude?

I don't think so... we've let the environment (the stadium, the owners etc) change who we are.
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