The formation for next season

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Re: The formation for next season

Postby OnePaulHilton on Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:01 pm

Totally agree.
Hold on maybe a 4-1-3-2 or a 4-1-3-1-1
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby Burnley Hammer on Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:08 pm

mumbles87 wrote:england seem to be performing well playing 3 5 2 .. surely good enough for us aswell?

--------------------------Fabianski

-------------------Diop----Rice---Ogbonna

Fredericks---Wilshere--Obiang---Kouyate----Arthur

-----------------------Arnie----Hernandez


With those 2 up front, I would hope we do a lot better than that in providing creativity.

also

We won't be playing rubbish teams like England have been doing :wink:
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby Patito on Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:12 pm

OnePaulHilton wrote:Totally agree.
Hold on maybe a 4-1-3-2 or a 4-1-3-1-1



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Re: The formation for next season

Postby Monkeybubbles on Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:25 pm

Manny Pello's first season at City was the classic example of his teams. It was roughly:

------------------------Hart------------------------
Zab---Kompany---Nastasic---Clichy
---------Fernandinho-------Toure----------
------Nasri----------------------------Silva-----
----------------Dzeko----Aguero--------------


When playing defensively, it's almost a 442. When attacking Zab (Fredericks) and Clichy (Arthur) bomb forward with Fernandinho (Wiltsheer) and Toure (Obiang) dropping deep and wide to cover. Nasri and Silva (Yarmie and Anderson) tuck in to Inside Forward, or push out to wing depending on the defensive shape of the oppo. Upfront is the battering ram Dzeko (Arnie) and the mobile finisher (L'il Pea).
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby The Old Man of Storr on Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:58 pm

4-1-4-1

4-3-3

4-2-3-1

Whatever the formation , this coming season could well turn out to be the most entertaining for many a year .
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby Cellar-door on Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:14 am

Assuming Anderson and Sturaro come in I think Pellegrini's preferred 4-2-2-2 makes a lot of sense:

--------------------Fabianski------------------------
Fredricks------Diop---Ogbonna---Cresswell/Masuaku
-----------Wilshire------------Sturaro----------
------Yarmolenko-----------------------Anderson-----
----------------Chicharito----Arnautovic--------------

Really points out how key Anderson (or a similar quick creative player) is, the other options there are Antonio (best suited to be a backup forward in this formation), Snodgrass and Masuaku. Not the most appealing of options.
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby hammerman11 on Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:37 am

-Fabianski------------------------
Fredricks------Diop---Ogbonna---Cresswell/Masuaku
-----------Wilshire------------Sturaro----------
------Yarmolenko-----------------------Anderson-----
----------------Chicharito----Arnautovic--


nice looking team that will scare a few teams

subs bench from
Adrian
zabaleta rice reid cresswell/masuaka
noble kouyate obiang
Holland carroll antonio
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby Burnley Hammer on Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:20 am

We'll let loads of goals in with Fabianski stuck out by the corner flag like that
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby hammerleroy on Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:38 am

I'm not gonna try any of this malarkey but this is my favourite thread. Well done the lot of ya! :thup:
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby Burnley Hammer on Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:30 am

--------------------Fabianski------------------------
Fredricks------Diop---Ogbonna---Cresswell/Masuaku
-----------Wilshere------------Sturaro----------
------Yarmolenko-----------------------Anderson-----
----------------Chicharito----Arnautovic--------------

or

--------------------Fabianski------------------------
Fredricks------Diop---Ogbonna---Cresswell/Masuaku
-----------Wilshere------------Sturaro----------
Yarmolenko------Arnautovic------Anderson-----
---------------------Chicharito-----------------

or if Arnie is sold:

--------------------Fabianski------------------------
Fredricks------Diop---Ogbonna---Cresswell/Masuaku
-------------Noble------------Sturaro----------
Yarmolenko------Wilshere------Anderson-----
---------------------Chicharito-----------------

or

--------------------Fabianski------------------------
Fredricks------Diop---Ogbonna---Cresswell/Masuaku
-----------Wilshere------------Sturaro----------
------Yarmolenko-----------------------Anderson-----
--------------Chicharito----Carroll--------------


Can't see Wilshere ever being dropped - only injured.

That leaves Noble, Obiang, Kouyate, Sturaro, Cullen, and potentially even Rice and Zabaleta depending on how Pellegrini utilises them, fighting it out for 1 place in the team. Nobody really stands out as I've never seen Sturaro play so there may be a bit of rotation. But IF - and its a massive IF - we did happen to get Seri, then he's going to play. That leaves a lot of current players sitting on a bench.
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby szola on Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:05 am

Let's presume we're going for a 4-2-2-2

Our best centrehalves are good enough.
We have enough quality in midfield to give enough protection to the back line, if they can position themselves.

Our wide players aren't good defenders, apart from Zabaleta. If the wingers track back, they are good enough defenders.

We've rarely attacke with more than three-four players. This formation doesn't require more top heavy attacking. It can easily become a flat 4-4-2 or a 4-5-1.

Arnautovic can defend, so does Carroll and the same goes for Antonio, Snodgrass, Lanzini, Masuaku. Hernandez is the only player I'd leave up front at all times.

If the World Cup is any point of reference, it shows just how easy it is to defend, if we go about it in numbers.

What we've been lacking in my opinion is pace. We been stretched, and forced to play long at times, because we haven't been able to move the team quickly up field.

If the addition of Anderson, Yarmolenko is true, we've been adding more pace. Masuaku, Antonio, Fredericks, Arnautovic already give us pace.
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby hammerman11 on Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:52 am

-------------------Fabianski------------------------
Fredricks------Diop---Ogbonna---Cresswell/Masuaku
-----------Wilshere------------Sturaro----------
Yarmolenko------Arnautovic------Anderson-----
---------------------Chicharito-----------------

That is some team just need Anderson ,nearly done, and sturaro

2nd team is not too bad although I expect departures from it:
Adrian
zabaleta rice reid cresswell
noble obiang
Antonio kouyate Holland
carroll
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby Longaz on Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:31 pm

Just cant see how Noble plays if all are fit, id go with the following eleven as our strongest (assuming we sign Sturaro or another DCM), comfortable with 3 or 4 at the back. if we do play with 4 i think we would have to have Rice in with Sturaro or whoever we buy because no doubt Fredericks and Masuaku will need covering more often than not. Noble cant do that job and Wilshere offers everything Mark provides and more.

------------------------------Fabianski

----------------------Diop------------Ogbonna
Fredericks-------------------------------------------Masuaku
------------------------Rice----------Sturaro
-------------------------------Wilshere
Yarmolenko-------------------------------------Anderson
------------------------------Arnautovic


------------------------------Fabianski
-------------Diop---------------Rice-----------Ogbonna
Frederick------Wilshere----------Sturaro------------Masuaku
-----------Yarmolenko------------------------Anderson
---------------------------------Arnautovic
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby BrownFatwa on Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:16 pm

Feels to me like a 1-2-CHARGE line-up.
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby HammerAl on Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:46 pm

The dream for me (although unsure MP will adopt):

---------------- Fabianski -----------------
Fredericks Diop Lascelles Masuaku (I'd only want Mas playing here if we have two CDMs playing)
---------------- Blin Rice ------------------ ***
---------------- Wilshere ------------------
Yarmolenko Arnautovic Anderson

Fluid and versatile formation. Can either be 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1. 4-5-1. 3-5-2 / 5-3-2 (with one of the CDMs slipping into the back 3 / 5)

Big, strong and athletic spine
Full backs bombing on (effectively playing as wingbacks) with the CDMs covering
Pace and power on the wings
Wilshere pulling the strings just in front of the CDMs
Arnie as focal point up top
*** I know we haven't been linked with him but Yorks has convinced me about Blin (or someone like him). I'm unsure about Rice there too but I think he's such a good player I'd like to see him playing in some capacity.

That team would cause a lot of teams a lot of problems.
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby goa127 on Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:14 pm

I haven't got a f*****g clue who we're gonna play or where they are gonna play. This window becomes more surreal every day
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby hammerleroy on Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:04 am

With you goa127, might do one with Messi in it cos according to :arry: he used to run around as a small boy wearing a Hammers shirt!!! :thup:
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby funky chicken on Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:46 pm

Anyone on here that has set up their team which involves moving Arnie, who is by far our best striker and who is probably the best striker outside of the top 6 clubs, either out wide, or in the hole just to shove Hernandez in the team. Can I just say thank god your are not our first team manager :thup:
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby thejackhammer on Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:53 pm

Fabianski
Fredericks Diop Ogbonna Masuaku
Kouyate
Wilshere Noble
Anderson
Arnautovic Yarmolenko

Adrian
Zabaleta Balbuena Rice Cresswell
Obiang
Fernandes Cullen
Snodgrass
Hernandez Hugill

That second team looks particularly weak in central midfielder and the three attacking positions.
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Re: The formation for next season

Postby swerley on Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:58 pm

szola wrote:What we've been lacking in my opinion is pace. We been stretched, and forced to play long at times, because we haven't been able to move the team quickly up field.


I agree with you about pace, but would also add pace of decision making too. Way too often the past two seasons it has been pass - collect, stop, and analyze - and then pass (usually back). Add to that the times when decisions are made on what to do after the time has passed to actually do it.
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