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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby IlGallo on Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:10 pm

I always think he looks better when he pops up on the right and is able to use his pace to go outside rather than when he's on the left and has to dribble inwards, because while he's very skillful in terms of little flicks etc, his close control and technical dribbling skills are actually pretty poor and if there's a defender tight to him on that side nine times out of ten he's dispossessed or has to go backwards

Probably the reason he's spent most of his career on the right up to this point
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby kentishiron on Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:55 pm

johnnyb wrote:
But when he's good he is really good. The trouble is it's either one or the other at the moment and nothing in between.


What do you mean at the moment? He's been one of our top performers since our first win at Everton, including 7 goals in 9 games before today?
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby fmgod on Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:56 pm

He's got eight goals, aside from the top six the only one with more is Ricliarson with 9 who plays up top, let's cut him some slack
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby hammers92 on Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:21 pm

fmgod wrote:He's got eight goals, aside from the top six the only one with more is Ricliarson with 9 who plays up top, let's cut him some slack


Absolutely, standing out for West Ham in the last 15 years is actually a very decent achievement. This guy would play much better if he had a decent LB behind him though.
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby Pentonville on Mon Dec 31, 2018 2:40 am

Being in the ground, and watching him closely for 90 mins, he barely received a ball to run onto with pace, which is his strength.Most of the passes to him were with his back to goal and a Burnley defender in close attendance. Whats he supposed to do with that sort of service? Here the distribution of Creswell and Noble to Anderson was poor at best. Its not Andersons lack of close dribbling skills that is a problem, its that he wasn't used to good effect today. He certainly showed plenty of desire, and one point, and probably in frustration, trying to run through the entire midfield of Burnley with no support what so ever.
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby Ladzini on Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:51 am

As much as Masuaku cannot defend, I think his service to Anderson in terms of balls from deep or to run onto is far superior to Cresswell, who does not have the trickery to beat a man and then put Anderson through.
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby e17 on Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:56 am

Ladzini wrote:As much as Masuaku cannot defend, I think his service to Anderson in terms of balls from deep or to run onto is far superior to Cresswell, who does not have the trickery to beat a man and then put Anderson through.

Couldn’t agree more

Cresswell has devolved as a ball player since his time under Sam

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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby simon hammer on Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:09 pm

Looked like he would benefit from a rest.

I wouldn't start him against Brighton, but would have him on the bench.
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby The Gibbins on Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:21 pm

He is a threat and will be targeted, especially with the injuries we have as he has been our only real threat in an attacking sense. You could see yesterday as soon as Burnley outnumbered him we had no one else to offer anything, im not even sure what Perez did yesterday, you had to keep looking for him in the background to convince yourself he was in the starting line up.

Anderson is a quality player but those in his position won't do it every week, there will be inconsistent performances because its hard to continuously play at that intensity and do it well (especially over the Christmas period). Even the likes of Hazard struggle to put in 5 star performances week in week out.
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby irving boleyn on Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:41 pm

Regarding balls to feet rather than into space,

Only top players can turn with the ball and beat a man. Seems a Pelle ruling I guess, Used to players to whom that comes easy.
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:29 pm

:hush: :hush: :hush:
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby Beavis Danzig on Mon Dec 31, 2018 4:10 pm

burnley clearly went in with the mentality of "stop anderson, stop west ham" and arnie our maverick talisman finding his way onto the starting XI should've ruined that plan, but he offered nothing.

if he isn't fit enough to influence a game, don't start him.
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby Absolutely Hammered! on Mon Dec 31, 2018 5:11 pm

To think he was fairly annonomous for the first 7 ish games and now he has 8 goals to his name. Quality. First season too.
Excitingly he now has a playmate in nasri so he should be able to get on the end of some killer passes (In theory anyway)
Worryingly if he ends up getting roughly 15 goals this season he will attract too much unwanted attention as some have said.
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby mumbles87 on Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:52 pm

Absolutely Hammered! wrote:To think he was fairly annonomous for the first 7 ish games and now he has 8 goals to his name. Quality. First season too.
Excitingly he now has a playmate in nasri so he should be able to get on the end of some killer passes (In theory anyway)
Worryingly if he ends up getting roughly 15 goals this season he will attract too much unwanted attention as some have said.


If he ends up with 15 goals that will be outstanding.: arnie got 11 last season playing up top.. he was first to Get over 10 goals (premier league) since 06/07 (Zamora)

15 goals would be second highest in one season (in the prem) since Di Canio got 16 in 99/00
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby Jon on Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:25 pm

I'd still like to seem him more central. And given the job of running the attacking play. If he can score from out wide what he can do in the middle?!

He's clearly a quiet lad. When he scores he looks embarrassed. The opposite of most players! I hope our Manager can give him more confidence, to believe in just how good he is.
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby mumbles87 on Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:27 pm

Jon wrote:I'd still like to seem him more central. And given the job of running the attacking play. If he can score from out wide what he can do in the middle?!

He's clearly a quiet lad. When he scores he looks embarrassed. The opposite of most players! I hope our Manager can give him more confidence, to believe in just how good he is.


Maybe could see him there with nasri on left, Antonio right, arnie up top

That’s just amazing
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:32 pm

it WOULD be amazing...

it would be like 5-5 or 4-8 each week...

:D

next goal wins ???

:D
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby claretnblueglasses on Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:35 pm

mumbles87 wrote:If he ends up with 15 goals that will be outstanding.: arnie got 11 last season playing up top.. he was first to Get over 10 goals (premier league) since 06/07 (Zamora)

15 goals would be second highest in one season (in the prem) since Di Canio got 16 in 99/00


As good as that would be from Anderson, that is absolutely shocking on our behalf :lol:

How many times since ‘92 have we had a player reach double digits in a season?
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby mumbles87 on Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:44 pm

claretnblueglasses wrote:
As good as that would be from Anderson, that is absolutely shocking on our behalf :lol:

How many times since ‘92 have we had a player reach double digits in a season?


https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/west-ha ... verein/379

More than I thought tbh but not amazingly stats
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Re: Felipe Anderson

Postby SpongeBob's Pants on Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:50 pm

Like i said a few days back now, Felipe will delight and frustrate in equal measure. Thats just how his game is.

His languid style, and often lack of apparent effort/care at times also doesn't help when we're struggling.

He must also be about the only attacking Brazilian i have seen play who can't actually dribble his way past players. He runs at players using pace only, or picks out a pass. He doesn't actually dribble past players in the traditional sense.
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