Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby FAH_1973 on Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:09 pm

Happy with our transfer window overall. Never thought we would spend the money we have. I would have preferred Mawson over Diop as fee seemed about the same but hopefully I ill be proved wrong. Just hope Anderson, Yamalenko, Diop and Babluena can adapt quickly to the premier league.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby bubbles1966 on Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:47 pm

Sanchez needs to be one hell of a player to fix our midfield.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby funky chicken on Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:10 pm

bubbles1966 wrote:Sanchez needs to be one hell of a player to fix our midfield.


Absolutely.

Like I've said previously it is practically the same midfield that nearly relegated us last season. We started of last season with Rice and Noble and played as bad as we did today, leaking in a bucket load of goals.

Dare I say it, I'd even be tempted to get on the blower to Yaya and offer him a 1 year deal until the end of the season. That's how much faith I have in our current central midfield options.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:50 pm

bubbles1966 wrote:Sanchez needs to be one hell of a player to fix our midfield.



^^^^^^

what he said..

and I know we might be flogging a deceased equine.....but a few of us here might have mentioned that a quality DM was required...

all we got met with was "If our manager decides he doesn't need one, it's all right with me..."
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby Longaz on Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:53 pm

bubbles1966 wrote:Sanchez needs to be one hell of a player to fix our midfield.


One hell of a player to fix it, but just needs to turn up to improve it
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby Crouchend_Hammer on Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:54 pm

Let's give it more than 90 minutes away against one of the best attacking sides in Europe, eh!?

If Bournemouth, Wolves and others are walking through our midfield, or if teams are still doing it in October, then the 'I told you sos' may be valid
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:06 pm

Crouchy


did you analyse the first goal at all ?????

just a question....
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby bubbles1966 on Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:09 pm

Crouchend_Hammer wrote:Let's give it more than 90 minutes away against one of the best attacking sides in Europe, eh!?

If Bournemouth, Wolves and others are walking through our midfield, or if teams are still doing it in October, then the 'I told you sos' may be valid


That performance today was worse than both our efforts last year.

The idea that we can give other teams a ten game start by dithering is how we ended up having such a god awful season last year.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby Longaz on Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:10 pm

Crouchend_Hammer wrote:Let's give it more than 90 minutes away against one of the best attacking sides in Europe, eh!?

If Bournemouth, Wolves and others are walking through our midfield, or if teams are still doing it in October, then the 'I told you sos' may be valid


IF Bournemouth and Wolves do it, considering our other fixtures we’ll be well off the pace come October, The atmosphere around the club will be toxic again and we’ll struggle to recover. Obiang and Sanchez in for Bournemouth for me. We have enough going forward to trouble most teams in Wilshere, Anderson, Yarmo and Arnie. But that midfield today will struggle against anyone with a bit of pace.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby prophet:marginal on Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:13 pm

Crouchend_Hammer wrote:Let's give it more than 90 minutes away against one of the best attacking sides in Europe, eh!?

If Bournemouth, Wolves and others are walking through our midfield, or if teams are still doing it in October, then the 'I told you sos' may be valid


bubbles1966 wrote:That performance today was worse than both our efforts last year.


Sheesh, if that is true - and I am remembering the performance at home against LFC in particular - today sounds like a 90 minute disaster zone.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby Crouchend_Hammer on Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:13 pm

Yes, the photo that someone posted from Twitter said it all
As you rightly said, in this game the central midfield was non-existent. However,I have never advocated Noble and Rice in central midfield - i think Rice is a CB, not a DM
I would prefer Sanchez and/or Obiang in there

Pelligrini is clearly trying to introduce a new defensive tactic (the high line) and that didn't help the situation, especially against Liverpool

However, given that the player we recruited to play in the DM position wasn't even on the pitch, I am not going to write us off yet, especially as that game was against probably the best team in England at taking advantage of a slow, immobile, very under-par midfield
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby happydaystoytown on Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:16 pm

CM's the new RB.

Fudge it and muddle on regardless.

You can't believe Pellers is happy with his options in that position.

Noble and Obiang, squad players at best, Rice inexperienced, Wilshere will be injured at some point, nobody seems to rate Sanchez and then there's Cullen!
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:16 pm

Crouchy

if we signed a DM it must have been because we probably needed one. if that is/was the case why not sign one sooner and then maybe he COULD have been on the field for today..

and have you answered my question about the first goal ?
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby Crouchend_Hammer on Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:23 pm

Cuenca 'ammer wrote:Crouchy

if we signed a DM it must have been because we probably needed one. if that is/was the case why not sign one sooner and then maybe he COULD have been on the field for today..

and have you answered my question about the first goal ?


Yes i answered it in my last post

"Yes, the photo that someone posted from Twitter said it all"


tbf i don't think i have ever said we don't need a DM. I have been saying it should be the priority for the last five seasons

However, i am prepared to give it at least 10 games to see if the issues from last season have been at least partially rectified. Playing the specialist DM we do have, will hopefully help
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:29 pm

didn't see the photo posted...

and 10 games is WAY too many to see if our experiment works....

I am not saying the sky is falling..however this issue should have been FIRST priority. Even some of the pre season games showed we need one....

Maybe we should have really looked at a top top top quality one to compliment the signings we had.

I think I might have posted last week or the week before, 40 M for Anderson "might" have been better spent on a 15M DM and a 25M CB or vice versa.

These are not issues that people have been commenting on based on a 4-0 tonking today.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby Puff Daddy on Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:32 pm

I always thought we needed a hard rock at the back. Somebody like Granite Xhaka
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby Alcaucin Ammef on Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:38 pm

Watching l'Arse game. I wish we'd discovered that Guendouza fella.
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby Faithless on Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:39 pm

CA I think that Sanchez should be good enough for us this season. I understand what you're saying but maybe there is a defensive midfielder out there that Pellegrini rates/wants that we couldn't get this summer? (might be clutching at straws here and I have no idea who that elusive DM would be)

MP might also think that over the course of the first season getting Anderson in is more important to how he want's to develop the side.

This is the pic CH is referring to, showing both our DM's 5yrds ahead of the central attacking midfielder.,..like he said "It says it all"
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby Cuenca 'ammer on Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:43 pm

Faithless

cheers mate....

yep says' it all...maybe there is one out there that he wants who wasn't available........

maybe should have moved on to choice number 2 then a bit earlier..

now we have had the entire pre season with players who "we" thought might foot the bill, but getting Sanchez in this late means in effect we're 6 weeks away from making the adjustments to personnel and the system we want to play.

that's what pre season is for imvho..

wish that were a video we could see if Antonio tracked back to take away the initial pass outside...
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Re: Summer Transfer Window - The Verdict

Postby Longaz on Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:51 pm

Imo CB's not the problem, i posted the link to the photo earlier both Noble and Rice 20-30 yards out of position leaving Mane or Keita with a free run at our defence. I guess it's the risk you take playing a Teenage CB there but surely Captain Noble is experienced enough to either have better positioning or remind Rice to
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